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1. 03:21 AM - Re: Brake pad back plate bolts (dmaib@me.com)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Brake pad back plate bolts (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Brake pad back plate bolts (Kelly McMullen)
4. 08:44 AM - Re: Folding bike that fits through baggage door? (Areba21)
5. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: Folding bike that fits through baggage door? (Dan Masys)
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| Subject: | Re: Brake pad back plate bolts |
AN 417A it is! Thanks Bob and Kelly (and Tim O). I remembered that the pad had
self locking threads. The DAR that inspected my airplane way back in 2008 was
not comfortable with that and suggested (strongly) that I install drilled head
bolts and safety wire them. I did so to make him happy and have safety wired
them all these years. Belt and suspenders.
Thanks again for the response.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Brake pad back plate bolts |
I find it almost amusing that some DARs think their perception of safety is
better than the FAA ACO that approved the FAA/PMA or STC on the Cleveland
wheels.
The conversion kits Cleveland sells for single puck brakes on Cessnas do
not have safety wired bolts; you can see from Cleveland parts manual that
some versions of the 30-59 series have drilled head bolts, some do not. We
learn some things in A&P school that are mostly universal, like which
direction a bolt head should go, that in certain places is flat wrong. For
instance, the bolts that attach the vertical stab to the tail cone
absolutely need the bolt head to the rear for rudder clearance, when the
rule of thumb would put the bolt heads to the front. Incredible that the
design engineers usually do know what they are doing when they specify
something that goes against convention. I wonder how many more decades we
will go with safety wiring spin on oil filters? I have seen a few that were
not tightened enough, but never seen one back out, auto or airplane.
Kelly
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 3:25 AM dmaib@me.com <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
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> AN 417A it is! Thanks Bob and Kelly (and Tim O). I remembered that the pa
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> had self locking threads. The DAR that inspected my airplane way back in
> 2008 was not comfortable with that and suggested (strongly) that I instal
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> drilled head bolts and safety wire them. I did so to make him happy and
> have safety wired them all these years. Belt and suspenders. =F0=9F=98=84
> Thanks again for the response.
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502286#502286
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| Subject: | Re: Brake pad back plate bolts |
I know a bottle of blue Loctite is not cheap, but the price of getting a
Cleveland sourced AN4-17A with a little Loctite applied(and oem part
number) is $11.88, while the bolt itself 40 cents, both prices from ACS.
Oh, and a drilled head AN4H-17A is 92 cents. So you can get the drilled
head, apply some blue Loctite, and safety wire to make sure that sucker
never comes loose. By the way, Permatex has a new version of
Threadlocker, Threadlocker Orange that combines the strength of
threadlocker Red with the removability of Threadlocker Blue.
Or you could get Matco, Grove or Beringer brakes. I understand the
Beringer can even be purchased with an anti-skid version for those that
operate on wet and/or icy runways. The regular Beringer kit to replace
the Clevelands is only $3478.82 and apparently includes tires.
Kelly
On 6/8/2021 6:04 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> I find it almost amusing that some DARs think their perception of safety
> is better than the FAA ACO that approved the FAA/PMA or STC on the
> Cleveland wheels.
> The conversion kits Cleveland sells for single puck brakes on Cessnas do
> not have safety wired bolts; you can see from Cleveland parts manual
> that some versions of the 30-59 series have drilled head bolts, some do
> not. We learn some things in A&P school that are mostly universal, like
> which direction a bolt head should go, that in certain places is flat
> wrong. For instance, the bolts that attach the vertical stab to the tail
> cone absolutely need the bolt head to the rear for rudder clearance,
> when the rule of thumb would put the bolt heads to the front. Incredible
> that the design engineers usually do know what they are doing when they
> specify something that goes against convention. I wonder how many more
> decades we will go with safety wiring spin on oil filters? I have seen a
> few that were not tightened enough, but never seen one back out, auto or
> airplane.
>
> Kelly
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> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 3:25 AM dmaib@me.com <mailto:dmaib@me.com>
> <dmaib@me.com <mailto:dmaib@me.com>> wrote:
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> <mailto:dmaib@me.com>" <dmaib@me.com <mailto:dmaib@me.com>>
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> AN 417A it is! Thanks Bob and Kelly (and Tim O). I remembered that
> the pad had self locking threads. The DAR that inspected my airplane
> way back in 2008 was not comfortable with that and suggested
> (strongly) that I install drilled head bolts and safety wire them. I
> did so to make him happy and have safety wired them all these years.
> Belt and suspenders.
> Thanks again for the response.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Folding bike that fits through baggage door? |
digidocs wrote:
> Hi all,
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> I'm curious to hear if anyone has found a folding bike that will fit through
the baggagedoor. Would be especially neat if two would fit!
>
>
> David
I also own a Scwhinn 20-inch bike, you can check reviews at dirt bike advisor (https://dirtbikeadvisor.com)
which I recently used on a trip that required me
to bike approximately 10 miles after landing. I stowed it in the cargo hold of
a Piper Archer. Except for getting it on the wing to fit back there (it wouldn't
fit through the door), it was simple.
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| Subject: | Re: Folding bike that fits through baggage door? |
I have a couple of single speed 16 inch Dahons (purchased back in the 80's
from Camping World) that fit easily through the RV-10 baggage door. And a
more recent 20 inch Dahon MU P8 that won't but rides like a big bike and is
easy to toss into the back seat. The 16 inchers have steel frames and
weigh almost exactly as much as the magnesium framed 20 inch bike.
-Dan Masys
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:50 AM Areba21 <arebbaloch1122@gmail.com> wrote:
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> digidocs wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm curious to hear if anyone has found a folding bike that will fit
> through the baggage door. Would be especially neat if two would fit!
> >
> >
> > David
>
>
> I also own a Scwhinn 20-inch bike, you can check reviews at dirt bike
> advisor (https://dirtbikeadvisor.com) which I recently used on a trip
> that required me to bike approximately 10 miles after landing. I stowed it
> in the cargo hold of a Piper Archer. Except for getting it on the wing to
> fit back there (it wouldn't fit through the door), it was simple.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502293#502293
>
>
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