RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/11/21


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 10:14 AM - Cost of painting an RV-10 (Thomas Gautier)
     2. 10:27 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Charlie Derk)
     3. 10:33 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (CARL FROEHLICH)
     4. 10:44 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Tim Olson)
     5. 11:16 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (David Saylor)
     6. 11:22 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Lenny Iszak)
     7. 11:39 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Bob Leffler)
     8. 11:52 AM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Isaac Schantz)
     9. 12:15 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 12:57 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Robert Jones)
    11. 01:01 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Robert Jones)
    12. 01:08 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Charlie Derk)
    13. 01:34 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Lew Gallagher)
    14. 02:08 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Tim Boan)
    15. 04:48 PM - Re: Cost of painting an RV-10 (Craig Rufi)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:14:08 AM PST US
    From: Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Cost of painting an RV-10
    After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. Here is the situation: The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. Here is the estimate: Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) Fiberglass labor: $1690 Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 Total $10,990 Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. Regards, Nick Gautier N363TG sn 40363


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    Time: 10:27:37 AM PST US
    From: Charlie Derk <cderk@icloud.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    That sounds reasonable to me, actually maybe too reasonable. I spent twice that for my new RV10 without any paint to be stripped off. Its a 5 foot paint job. Get closer than that and its not that great. > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. > Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 > > >


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    Time: 10:33:58 AM PST US
    From: CARL FROEHLICH <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    I say that is a good, honest price IF they will do the necessary prep and glass finish. Shoot fire, if I could find someone to prep the glass for paint at that price Id write a check out as fast as I could. I recommend doing your due diligence to verify they are doing prep work to your satisfaction. I just painted my new RV-8 and the material alone cost me over $4000 (high end PPG urethane base and clear coat). Im assuming the RV-10 in 18-24 months will be double that - again just for material. Paint cost is going up faster than Lycoming engine prices. Carl > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. > Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 > > >


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    Time: 10:44:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    Thats what I was thinking too. I know people who paid 2.5x that much. Beautiful jobjust lots of money. But to hand it to someone else, $10k is a pretty low number. Tim > On Jul 11, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Charlie Derk <cderk@icloud.com> wrote: > > > That sounds reasonable to me, actually maybe too reasonable. I spent twice that for my new RV10 without any paint to be stripped off. Its a 5 foot paint job. Get closer than that and its not that great. > >> On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. >> >> Here is the situation: >> The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. >> The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. >> I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. >> Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. >> I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. >> >> Here is the estimate: >> Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) >> Fiberglass labor: $1690 >> Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 >> >> Total $10,990 >> >> Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. >> >> Regards, >> Nick Gautier >> N363TG >> sn 40363 >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 11:16:55 AM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    Nick, That actually seems like it's on the low side. The paint shop in Salinas charges about twice that. They do an outstanding job and have a couple Lindy winners as proof. Originally I polished my wings and had Salinas paint the rest of the plane. Afterward I decided to get the wings painted, and they wanted $9K just for the wings. That was about 10 years ago. I had them done elsewhere for a lot less, and I've regretted that decision ever since. Like it or not, the paint job will define the airplane. Get the best one you can afford! --Dave On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:18 AM Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I > am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on > the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that > seems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you > know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in > at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without > getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to > reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it > off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglas s. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning > outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to > get a really professional look. > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and > contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that > needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current > paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane > painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I > would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 11:22:54 AM PST US
    From: Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    That is a really good price for a paintjob even if its a simple scheme. The hard part is prepping the surfaces for paint. Doing a multi-color scheme just adds a couple of days and the cost of paint. I would suggest getting some more quotes, not just for price but estimated time, and from shops that have painted a -10 before. Some shops that havent, tend to underestimate the work involved. The cost of the SW Skyscapes paint and materials alone for my -10 was around that price, in 2010. I saw an RV-10 that got painted for close to $30K and that was before this crazy market where they are now selling for $300K. Beautiful paint job though. But probably only those who painted their own plane appreciate that kind of attention to detail and lack of mistakes :)) Lenny > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. > Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 > > >


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    Time: 11:39:10 AM PST US
    From: Bob Leffler <bob@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Cost of painting an RV-10
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    Time: 11:52:12 AM PST US
    From: Isaac Schantz <isaac.schantz@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    Hi Nick, The $11,000 seems reasonable. I painted my own plane in my garage before bringing it to the airport. After all the material purchases, to include Tyvek suites, H-F spray gun, PPE air supply, paint booth supplies and erection, and paint prep materials, I had invested about $5,000. Put in another $5,000 for paint, and 1,000 hours prep and paint time, the $11,000 seems very reasonable. Isaac J. Schantz=F0=9F=9B=A9 N51279 41847 On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrote: > > That is a really good price for a paintjob even if it=99s a simple scheme. > The hard part is prepping the surfaces for paint. Doing a multi-color > scheme just adds a couple of days and the cost of paint. > I would suggest getting some more quotes, not just for price but estimate d > time, and from shops that have painted a -10 before. Some shops that > haven=99t, tend to underestimate the work involved. > The cost of the SW Skyscapes paint and materials alone for my -10 was > around that price, in 2010. > I saw an RV-10 that got painted for close to $30K and that was before thi s > crazy market where they are now selling for $300K. Beautiful paint job > though. But probably only those who painted their own plane appreciate th at > kind of attention to detail and lack of mistakes :)) > > Lenny > > > > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. > I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on > the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that > seems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you > know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in > at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without > getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to > reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it > off to other shops. > > > > Here is the situation: > > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the > fiberglass. > > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning > outside. > > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to > get a really professional look. > > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a strip e and > contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities > that needs removing. > > > > Here is the estimate: > > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > > > Total $10,990 > > > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about curren t > paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane > painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I > would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > > > Regards, > > Nick Gautier > > N363TG > > sn 40363 > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 12:15:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    My RV-10 is at paint shop right now, in Kingman AZ. Not very different from what you are describing. Even with 2K credit for disassembly and reassembly, I expect the total to be around $18K. Local shop that I had no success getting into would have been more. I know there are shops in TX, AR and other places in midwest for less, but I think you have a heck of a price for in CA. On 7/11/2021 10:13 AM, Thomas Gautier wrote: > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that seems kind of steep to me. Id like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglass. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. > Im want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 > > >


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    Time: 12:57:54 PM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    I got my RV10 painted at T&P at Salinas, CA. It is white with 3 other colors for trim. It cost me $14,000 and it was worth every penny. I receive nothin g but compliments on how good it looks. I remember seeing a 10 at my home field with a very patriotic paint scheme. I was looking at it when the owner showed up. It was starting to peel after 2 years. The owner told me not to go to Falcon Field in Phoenix where he did. Pair should last more than 20 years. Make sure you get a good job done. It w ill be cheap in the long run. Robert Jones 702-521-1840 > On Jul 11, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Isaac Schantz <isaac.schantz@gmail.com> wrot e: > > =EF=BB > Hi Nick, > The $11,000 seems reasonable. I painted my own plane in my garage before b ringing it to the airport. After all the material purchases, to include Tyv ek suites, H-F spray gun, PPE air supply, paint booth supplies and erection, and paint prep materials, I had invested about $5,000. Put in another $5,0 00 for paint, and 1,000 hours prep and paint time, the $11,000 seems very re asonable. > > Isaac J. Schantz=F0=9F=9B=A9 > N51279 > 41847 > >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> w rote: >> >> That is a really good price for a paintjob even if it=99s a simple s cheme. The hard part is prepping the surfaces for paint. Doing a multi-color scheme just adds a couple of days and the cost of paint. >> I would suggest getting some more quotes, not just for price but estimate d time, and from shops that have painted a -10 before. Some shops that haven =99t, tend to underestimate the work involved. >> The cost of the SW Skyscapes paint and materials alone for my -10 was aro und that price, in 2010. >> I saw an RV-10 that got painted for close to $30K and that was before thi s crazy market where they are now selling for $300K. Beautiful paint job tho ugh. But probably only those who painted their own plane appreciate that kin d of attention to detail and lack of mistakes :)) >> >> Lenny >> >> >> > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wr ote: >> > > >> > >> > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that s eems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would com e in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without g etting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble t he airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. >> > >> > Here is the situation: >> > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fibergl ass. >> > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning out side. >> > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to get a really professional look. >> > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a strip e and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pan ts. >> > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities th at needs removing. >> > >> > Here is the estimate: >> > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) >> > Fiberglass labor: $1690 >> > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 >> > >> > Total $10,990 >> > >> > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about curren t paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane p ainted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I wou ld be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Nick Gautier >> > N363TG >> > sn 40363 >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== >> >> >>


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    Time: 01:01:16 PM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    I agree 100%. After all the work you put into building a great aircraft you d on=99t want a lousy paint job. Really good work costs more. It is chea per in the long run. Robert Jones 702-521-1840 > On Jul 11, 2021, at 11:21 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > Nick, > > That actually seems like it's on the low side. The paint shop in Salinas c harges about twice that. They do an outstanding job and have a couple Lindy winners as proof. > > Originally I polished my wings and had Salinas paint the rest of the plane . Afterward I decided to get the wings painted, and they wanted $9K just fo r the wings. That was about 10 years ago. I had them done elsewhere for a l ot less, and I've regretted that decision ever since. > > Like it or not, the paint job will define the airplane. Get the best one y ou can afford! > > --Dave > >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:18 AM Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> w rote: >> >> After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on t he field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that see ms kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what y ou know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come i n at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without gett ing other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other s hops. >> >> Here is the situation: >> The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglas s. >> The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning outsi de. >> I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to g et a really professional look. >> I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe a nd contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. >> I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that needs removing. >> >> Here is the estimate: >> Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) >> Fiberglass labor: $1690 >> Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 >> >> Total $10,990 >> >> Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current p aint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane pain ted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I would b e willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. >> >> Regards, >> Nick Gautier >> N363TG >> sn 40363 >> ========== >> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV10-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== >> >> >>


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    Time: 01:08:51 PM PST US
    From: Charlie Derk <cderk@icloud.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    It=99s definitely worth finding someone who takes pride in their work a nd is meticulous. My paint job was close to $22k, and I wish I would have sp ent more and had it done at Evoke in Alabama. It would have been $8k more an d knowing what I know now, I would have happily paid it. My paint is less than a year old. I=99ve had the plane back 4 times fo r touch ups. Here is the latest issue I had - this was from them painting a s tripe the wrong color and then not prepping it properly to paint it the righ t color. > On Jul 11, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BBI got my RV10 painted at T&P at Salinas, CA. It is white with 3 o ther colors for trim. It cost me $14,000 and it was worth every penny. I rec eive nothing but compliments on how good it looks. > > I remember seeing a 10 at my home field with a very patriotic paint scheme . I was looking at it when the owner showed up. It was starting to peel afte r 2 years. The owner told me not to go to Falcon Field in Phoenix where he d id. > > Pair should last more than 20 years. Make sure you get a good job done. It will be cheap in the long run. > > Robert Jones > 702-521-1840 > >>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Isaac Schantz <isaac.schantz@gmail.com> wr ote: >>> >> =EF=BB >> Hi Nick, >> The $11,000 seems reasonable. I painted my own plane in my garage before bringing it to the airport. After all the material purchases, to include T yvek suites, H-F spray gun, PPE air supply, paint booth supplies and erectio n, and paint prep materials, I had invested about $5,000. Put in another $5 ,000 for paint, and 1,000 hours prep and paint time, the $11,000 seems very r easonable. >> >> Isaac J. Schantz=F0=9F=9B=A9 >> N51279 >> 41847 >> >>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:27 PM Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com> w rote: >>> >>> That is a really good price for a paintjob even if it=99s a simple scheme. The hard part is prepping the surfaces for paint. Doing a multi-col or scheme just adds a couple of days and the cost of paint. >>> I would suggest getting some more quotes, not just for price but estimat ed time, and from shops that have painted a -10 before. Some shops that have n=99t, tend to underestimate the work involved. >>> The cost of the SW Skyscapes paint and materials alone for my -10 was ar ound that price, in 2010. >>> I saw an RV-10 that got painted for close to $30K and that was before th is crazy market where they are now selling for $300K. Beautiful paint job th ough. But probably only those who painted their own plane appreciate that ki nd of attention to detail and lack of mistakes :)) >>> >>> Lenny >>> >>> >>> > On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> w rote: >>> > t> >>> > >>> > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10 . I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop o n the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that s eems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would com e in at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without g etting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to reassemble t he airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it off to other shops. >>> > >>> > Here is the situation: >>> > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberg lass. >>> > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning ou tside. >>> > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work t o get a really professional look. >>> > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stri pe and contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pa nts. >>> > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities t hat needs removing. >>> > >>> > Here is the estimate: >>> > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) >>> > Fiberglass labor: $1690 >>> > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 >>> > >>> > Total $10,990 >>> > >>> > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about curre nt paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane p ainted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I wou ld be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Nick Gautier >>> > N363TG >>> > sn 40363 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >>> ========== >>> >>> >>>


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    Time: 01:34:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Guys, I gotta tell ya, I love this thread!=C2- I've completely painted on e RV-10, two and a half RV-8's, two and a half RV-12's,=C2- and all sorts of repair jobs.=C2- =C2-I'm presently helping finish the build on my L AST complete paint job on another RV-10.=C2- I'm very popular cuz I've be en almost giving it away for friends ... then friends of friends, etc. and have a waiting list.=C2- I can only paint disassembled planes (to fit the m in my paint booth). My favorite customers are those who have tried to prep/paint it themselves. =C2- They are the only ones who really appreciate how labor intensive thi s work is, and it's different from painting steel cars, and taping off for stripes, and filling pinholes, not getting runs around rivets, getting meta llic to lay right on different pieces,etc. etc.=C2- You know what I'm tal king about, Tim. And I repair plexi canopies.=C2- Please make sure someone knows what they 're doing before they "get primer off the rear windows"! I've been told that to paint both RV-10 wings is about the same as painting a medium size car - with no stripes.=C2- I haven't bothered to figure ou t the surface area, but it sounds about right.=C2- I know one auto body s hop that agreed to paint an RV-8 and afterwards said, "never again!" I'm not going to add to the advice on cost and "you get what you pay for", but I will say from a fiberglass finisher-painter's point of view that it k inda bugs me when guys spend 8 or 9 years building a plane, have spent a to n of money getting that part right, then when they get to me (the paint is the first thing anyone other than a pilot looks at), they are saying, "is i t going to cost THAT much, can I fly it next week?" Later, - Lew


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    Time: 02:08:05 PM PST US
    From: Tim Boan <tcboan@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    That seems like a really good price. Shops on the east coast would want well north of 15K. Tim Boan N9664U On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 1:18 PM Thomas Gautier <ngautier@earthlink.net> wrote: > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. I > am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on > the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that > seems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you > know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in > at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without > getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to > reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it > off to other shops. > > Here is the situation: > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the fiberglas s. > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning > outside. > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to > get a really professional look. > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a stripe and > contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities that > needs removing. > > Here is the estimate: > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > Total $10,990 > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about current > paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane > painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I > would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > Regards, > Nick Gautier > N363TG > sn 40363 =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 04:48:18 PM PST US
    From: Craig Rufi <craigr60@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Cost of painting an RV-10
    Just finishing our paint job at Chino Aircraft Interiors and Century Paint at Chino airport. Took 13 weeks. Red silver and black with clear over the top. They did all the prep, and have done fantastic job....Pretty darn custom, $!8,300 On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > My RV-10 is at paint shop right now, in Kingman AZ. Not very different > from what you are describing. Even with 2K credit for disassembly and > reassembly, I expect the total to be around $18K. Local shop that I had > no success getting into would have been more. I know there are shops in > TX, AR and other places in midwest for less, but I think you have a heck > of a price for in CA. > > On 7/11/2021 10:13 AM, Thomas Gautier wrote: > > > > > After 200 some hours flying I have decided it's time to paint my RV-10. > I am based at Cable Airport, Upland, CA (KCCB) and there is a paint shop on > the field. I asked them for a painting estimate and got back a price that > seems kind of steep to me. I=99d like to hear from the group about what you > know about paint pricing. I was hoping that the KCCB estimate would come in > at a reasonable cost so I could just go for the on-field shop without > getting other bids. I may have to get more bids now but I need to > reassemble the airplane after the condition inspection before I can show it > off to other shops. > > > > Here is the situation: > > The airplane is unpainted except for the fin and rudder and the > fiberglass. > > The airplane needs a thorough degreasing on the bottom and cleaning > outside. > > I have filled and primed the fiberglass but there is still some work to > get a really professional look. > > I=99m want a simple, one color paint job (off white) with a strip e and > contrasting color on the wing tips, H-stab tips, fin tip and wheel pants. > > I have some overspray on the rear windows from my priming activities > that needs removing. > > > > Here is the estimate: > > Base price: $9800 (for Imron paint) > > Fiberglass labor: $1690 > > Credit for reassembly by owner: $500 > > > > Total $10,990 > > > > Seems kind of pricy for what I want. What do you guys know about curren t > paint job prices, especially in Southern California. Having the airplane > painted on my field is attractive, disassembly and reassembly wise, but I > would be willing to pick a shop 500 to 800 miles away for a good price. > > > > Regards, > > Nick Gautier > > N363TG > > sn 40363 > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Thank You, Craig Rufi Email craigr60@gmail.com Cell 805 402-6480




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