---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/17/21: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:18 AM - G100UL (Kelly McMullen) 2. 08:04 AM - Re: G100UL (Charlie England) 3. 08:30 AM - Re: G100UL (Kelly McMullen) 4. 11:38 AM - Re: G100UL (dave@corwith.com) 5. 01:17 PM - Strobe Power Supply Replacement (Marcus Cooper) 6. 02:05 PM - Re: Strobe Power Supply Replacement (Lenny Iszak) 7. 02:37 PM - Re: Strobe Power Supply Replacement (Marcus Cooper) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:42 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: RV10-List: G100UL Having just watched the AOPA webinar on the implementation of making this fuel available, the one area not addressed is whether amateur built experimental aircraft would need to do any paperwork to use the fuel. Type certificated aircraft will require an STC, just like they do for using mogas. Seems to me that we could just change our fuel placards to read G100UL or 100LL required, and start using it. Would be interesting to get EAA's opinion on this from one of their legal and technical experts. If we don't need anything, it would reduce GAMI's potential income a bit, although they still will get licensing/patent fees anyway. There is no question in my mind that any IO-540 that is currently installed in a -10 and runs satisfactorily on 100LL will be fine on G100UL. Especially since the stock engine was originally certified on 91/96 Avgas. Kelly ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: G100UL From: Charlie England On 9/17/2021 9:17 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Having just watched the AOPA webinar on the implementation of making > this fuel available, the one area not addressed is whether amateur > built experimental aircraft would need to do any paperwork to use the > fuel. Type certificated aircraft will require an STC, just like they > do for using mogas. Seems to me that we could just change our fuel > placards to read G100UL or 100LL required, and start using it. Would > be interesting to get EAA's opinion on this from one of their legal > and technical experts. > If we don't need anything, it would reduce GAMI's potential income a > bit, although they still will get licensing/patent fees anyway. > There is no question in my mind that any IO-540 that is currently > installed in a -10 and runs satisfactorily on 100LL will be fine on > G100UL. > Especially since the stock engine was originally certified on 91/96 Avgas. > Kelly > I've never heard of any rule preventing homebuilts from running any fuel they want. No STC is required for a homebuilt. I've run 100LL, 93 E-free mogas, and 93 E-gas in homebuilts, and I know of quite a few others who run all variations too, down to 87 E-gas (in Mazda rotaries). I'm not saying it's smart to run 87 in a 10-1 compression angle valve engine; just that it isn't illegal. It should be relatively easy to get EAA's opinion; just ask. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: G100UL From: Kelly McMullen I agree with you, although I have heard of FBOs that won't pump into a tank that doesn't have a placard allowing a specific grade of fuel..easy to fix with label maker. I would especially look forward to less maintenance in terms of fouled plugs, oil change intervals, etc. Kelly On 9/17/2021 8:08 AM, Charlie England wrote: >> > I've never heard of any rule preventing homebuilts from running any fuel > they want. No STC is required for a homebuilt. I've run 100LL, 93 E-free > mogas, and 93 E-gas in homebuilts, and I know of quite a few others who > run all variations too, down to 87 E-gas (in Mazda rotaries). I'm not > saying it's smart to run 87 in a 10-1 compression angle valve engine; > just that it isn't illegal. > > It should be relatively easy to get EAA's opinion; just ask. > > Charlie > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:44 AM PST US From: dave@corwith.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: G100UL Just read the article in AOPA magazine. It states that the stc funds the development. About 1.50=24/hp i think. So a one time fee of 400-600=24 ge ts u a sticker. Not sure how expermental fits in Dave Sent with a=C2-Spark On Sep 17, 2021, 11:07 -0400, Charlie England , w rote: > On 9/17/2021 9:17 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Having just watched the AOPA webinar on the implementation of making this fuel available, the one area not addressed is whether amateur built experimental aircraft would need to do any paperwork to use the fuel. Typ e certificated aircraft will require an STC, just like they do for using mogas. Seems to me that we could just change our fuel placards to read G1 00UL or 100LL required, and start using it. Would be interesting to get E AA's opinion on this from one of their legal and technical experts. > > If we don't need anything, it would reduce GAMI's potential income a bit, although they still will get licensing/patent fees anyway. > > There is no question in my mind that any IO-540 that is currently ins talled in a -10 and runs satisfactorily on 100LL will be fine on G100UL. > > Especially since the stock engine was originally certified on 91/96 A vgas. > > Kelly > I've never heard of any rule preventing homebuilts from running any fue l they want. No STC is required for a homebuilt. I've run 100LL, 93 E-fre e mogas, and 93 E-gas in homebuilts, and I know of quite a few others who run all variations too, down to 87 E-gas (in Mazda rotaries). I'm not sa ying it's smart to run 87 in a 10-1 compression angle valve engine; just that it isn't illegal. > > It should be relatively easy to get EAA's opinion; just ask. > > Charlie > > Virus-free. www.avast.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:26 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: RV10-List: Strobe Power Supply Replacement I have a Strobes N More Pro 606 power supply driving my strobe lights and it has been working great, but the power supply connector has become loose after 16 years and is intermittent. I'm not sure I can repair it so am looking for an alternative and it appears the model I have is no longer produced. I saw another by Preco that looks EXTREMELY similar to what I have, right down to the caution verbiage. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these or other recommendations? Thanks, Marcus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:12 PM PST US From: Lenny Iszak Subject: Re: RV10-List: Strobe Power Supply Replacement I=99m using these LED strobes, the older v2 version, and they=99 ve been great. They fit the cutout of the Xenon bulbs you have. https://www.strobesnmore.com/feniex-cannon-v3-hide-away.html Lenny > On Sep 17, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > > I have a Strobes N More Pro 606 power supply driving my strobe lights and it has been working great, but the power supply connector has become loose after 16 years and is intermittent. I'm not sure I can repair it so am looking for an alternative and it appears the model I have is no longer produced. I saw another by Preco that looks EXTREMELY similar to what I have, right down to the caution verbiage. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these or other recommendations? > > Thanks, > Marcus ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:39 PM PST US From: Marcus Cooper Subject: Re: RV10-List: Strobe Power Supply Replacement Those are really neat! I=99m mostly looking for a new power supply, bu t these may very well be in my future. Thanks, Marcus > On Sep 17, 2021, at 17:19, Lenny Iszak wrote: > > =EF=BBI=99m using these LED strobes, the older v2 version, and th ey=99ve been great. They fit the cutout of the Xenon bulbs you have. > > https://www.strobesnmore.com/feniex-cannon-v3-hide-away.html > > Lenny > > >> On Sep 17, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: >> >> I have a Strobes N More Pro 606 power supply driving my strobe lights and it has been working great, but the power supply connector has become loose a fter 16 years and is intermittent. I'm not sure I can repair it so am lookin g for an alternative and it appears the model I have is no longer produced. I saw another by Preco that looks EXTREMELY similar to what I have, right dow n to the caution verbiage. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these or other recommendations? >> >> Thanks, >> Marcus > ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ========================== ============= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.