RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/05/21


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:32 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Alan Mekler MD)
     2. 05:56 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Bob Leffler)
     3. 09:58 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Robert Jones)
     4. 10:14 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Alan Mekler MD)
     5. 10:38 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Ken Cashwell)
     6. 10:50 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Robert Jones)
     7. 11:08 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Robert Jones)
     8. 11:13 AM - Re: RV10 Performance (Robert Jones)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:32:34 AM PST US
    From: Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    Go to their web site Download the flight data forms and fly Then email them in When I got rid of gam they had me start with their stock size injections Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BBThanks. I think I will call them. I need to make sure my Dynon EM S is set for high resolution and harvest some data first. > > Robert Jones > >>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote : >>> >> =EF=BBI had no luck with gami >> Airflow performance was great >> Highly recommend >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> =EF=BB >>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606. >>> >>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. C onsider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve how e ven my EGT=99s peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the other 5, w hich are quite even. I have not been running lean of peak because of that. I think I could get my cruise fuel flow down to about 10 gal/ hr if I got m y injectors tuned better. Time will tell. >>>> >>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. I th ought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has a custom brak e fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can get him to build me on e I am going to hook it up to a general purpose wire on the EMS and build an icon for the Dynon EMS screen to display low brake fluid. >>>> >>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in normal m ode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small and I got a frien d of mine to modify the file to increase the size of the numbers on a few of them. He was so successful that I am going to have him increase the size of the numbers on the CHT=99s and EGT=99s and post the file here. >>>> >>>> Robert Jones >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wro te: >>>>>> >>>>> =EF=BB >>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>> >>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>> >>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>> >>>>> John Cox >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow build k it with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with 3 Dynon HDX screens a nd a Garmin 650. I was curious about performance in the community. I have a B arrett engine with cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually run i t at 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get about 160 T AS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 50 r ich of peak. Does this sound about average for most of you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> b Site - >>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics. com/contribution >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> John Cox


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    Time: 05:56:49 AM PST US
    From: Bob Leffler <bob@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
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    Time: 09:58:36 AM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    I found the documents. I will get with it and collect the data. Thanks for t he information. You have been quite helpful in getting me started in the rig ht direction. Robert Jones > On Oct 5, 2021, at 5:37 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote: > > =EF=BBGo to their web site > Download the flight data forms and fly > Then email them in > When I got rid of gam they had me start with their stock size injections > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> =EF=BBThanks. I think I will call them. I need to make sure my Dynon E MS is set for high resolution and harvest some data first. >> >> Robert Jones >> >>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrot e: >>>> >>> =EF=BBI had no luck with gami >>> Airflow performance was great >>> Highly recommend >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote : >>>>> >>>> =EF=BB >>>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606. >>>> >>>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. C onsider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve how even my EGT=99s peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the other 5 , which are quite even. I have not been running lean of peak because of that . I think I could get my cruise fuel flow down to about 10 gal/ hr if I go t my injectors tuned better. Time will tell. >>>>> >>>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. I t hought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has a custom bra ke fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can get him to build me o ne I am going to hook it up to a general purpose wire on the EMS and build a n icon for the Dynon EMS screen to display low brake fluid. >>>>> >>>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in normal mode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small and I got a fri end of mine to modify the file to increase the size of the numbers on a few o f them. He was so successful that I am going to have him increase the size o f the numbers on the CHT=99s and EGT=99s and post the file here. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Jones >>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wr ote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>>> >>>>>> John Cox >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote : > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow build k it with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with 3 Dynon HDX screens a nd a Garmin 650. I was curious about performance in the community. I have a B arrett engine with cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually run i t at 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get about 160 T AS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 50 r ich of peak. Does this sound about average for most of you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ma tronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> b Site - >>>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics .com/contribution >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> John Cox


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    Time: 10:14:30 AM PST US
    From: Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    I went through a nightmare with gami on my matti tuck red gold lycoming They had me send my spider out for calibration (any it was fine) They had me looking for intake leaks that weren=99t there They had my richest cylinder on takeoff become my leanest in cruise I was glad to find Don Rivera Alan Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BBI found the documents. I will get with it and collect the data. T hanks for the information. You have been quite helpful in getting me started in the right direction. > > Robert Jones > >>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 5:37 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote : >>> >> =EF=BBGo to their web site >> Download the flight data forms and fly >> Then email them in >> When I got rid of gam they had me start with their stock size injections >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote : >>>> >>> =EF=BBThanks. I think I will call them. I need to make sure my Dynon E MS is set for high resolution and harvest some data first. >>> >>> Robert Jones >>> >>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wro te: >>>>> >>>> =EF=BBI had no luck with gami >>>> Airflow performance was great >>>> Highly recommend >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrot e: >>>>>> >>>>> =EF=BB >>>>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606. >>>>> >>>>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. Consider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote : >>>>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve ho w even my EGT=99s peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the other 5 , which are quite even. I have not been running lean of peak because of that . I think I could get my cruise fuel flow down to about 10 gal/ hr if I go t my injectors tuned better. Time will tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. I t hought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has a custom bra ke fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can get him to build me o ne I am going to hook it up to a general purpose wire on the EMS and build a n icon for the Dynon EMS screen to display low brake fluid. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in norma l mode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small and I got a fr iend of mine to modify the file to increase the size of the numbers on a few of them. He was so successful that I am going to have him increase the size of the numbers on the CHT=99s and EGT=99s and post the file her e. >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> w rote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Cox >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrot e: m> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow build kit with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with 3 Dynon HDX screens and a Garmin 650. I was curious about performance in the community. I have a Barrett engine with cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually run it at 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get about 160 TAS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 5 0 rich of peak. Does this sound about average for most of you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> b Site - >>>>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronic s.com/contribution >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John Cox


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    Time: 10:38:45 AM PST US
    From: Ken Cashwell <kilocharlie767@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    I spoke with Don this morning. What a great source of information. Wish the y offered classes, but the times are what they are. Ken Sent from KC > On Oct 5, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote: > > =EF=BB > I went through a nightmare with gami on my matti tuck red gold lycoming > They had me send my spider out for calibration (any it was fine) > They had me looking for intake leaks that weren=99t there > They had my richest cylinder on takeoff become my leanest in cruise > I was glad to find Don Rivera > Alan > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> =EF=BBI found the documents. I will get with it and collect the data. T hanks for the information. You have been quite helpful in getting me started in the right direction. >> >> Robert Jones >> >>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 5:37 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrot e: >>>> >>> =EF=BBGo to their web site >>> Download the flight data forms and fly >>> Then email them in >>> When I got rid of gam they had me start with their stock size injections >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrot e: >>>>> >>>> =EF=BBThanks. I think I will call them. I need to make sure my Dynon EMS is set for high resolution and harvest some data first. >>>> >>>> Robert Jones >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wr ote: >>>>>> >>>>> =EF=BBI had no luck with gami >>>>> Airflow performance was great >>>>> Highly recommend >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wro te: >>>>>>> >>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606 . >>>>>> >>>>>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. Consider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrot e: >>>>>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve h ow even my EGT=99s peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the other 5, which are quite even. I have not been running lean of peak because of th at. I think I could get my cruise fuel flow down to about 10 gal/ hr if I g ot my injectors tuned better. Time will tell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. I thought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has a custom b rake fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can get him to build me one I am going to hook it up to a general purpose wire on the EMS and build an icon for the Dynon EMS screen to display low brake fluid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in norm al mode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small and I got a f riend of mine to modify the file to increase the size of the numbers on a fe w of them. He was so successful that I am going to have him increase the siz e of the numbers on the CHT=99s and EGT=99s and post the file he re. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> w rote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Cox >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wro te: om> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow buil d kit with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with 3 Dynon HDX screen s and a Garmin 650. I was curious about performance in the community. I have a Barrett engine with cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually r un it at 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get about 1 60 TAS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 50 rich of peak. Does this sound about average for most of you? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> b Site - >>>>>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> John Cox


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    Time: 10:50:37 AM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    Thanks for telling me your experience. Robert Jones > On Oct 5, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrote: > > =EF=BB > I went through a nightmare with gami on my matti tuck red gold lycoming > They had me send my spider out for calibration (any it was fine) > They had me looking for intake leaks that weren=99t there > They had my richest cylinder on takeoff become my leanest in cruise > I was glad to find Don Rivera > Alan > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> =EF=BBI found the documents. I will get with it and collect the data. T hanks for the information. You have been quite helpful in getting me started in the right direction. >> >> Robert Jones >> >>>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 5:37 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wrot e: >>>> >>> =EF=BBGo to their web site >>> Download the flight data forms and fly >>> Then email them in >>> When I got rid of gam they had me start with their stock size injections >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrot e: >>>>> >>>> =EF=BBThanks. I think I will call them. I need to make sure my Dynon EMS is set for high resolution and harvest some data first. >>>> >>>> Robert Jones >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler@metrocast.net> wr ote: >>>>>> >>>>> =EF=BBI had no luck with gami >>>>> Airflow performance was great >>>>> Highly recommend >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:21 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wro te: >>>>>>> >>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606 . >>>>>> >>>>>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. Consider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrot e: >>>>>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve h ow even my EGT=99s peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the other 5, which are quite even. I have not been running lean of peak because of th at. I think I could get my cruise fuel flow down to about 10 gal/ hr if I g ot my injectors tuned better. Time will tell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. I thought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has a custom b rake fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can get him to build me one I am going to hook it up to a general purpose wire on the EMS and build an icon for the Dynon EMS screen to display low brake fluid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in norm al mode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small and I got a f riend of mine to modify the file to increase the size of the numbers on a fe w of them. He was so successful that I am going to have him increase the siz e of the numbers on the CHT=99s and EGT=99s and post the file he re. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> w rote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =EF=BB >>>>>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Cox >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wro te: om> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow buil d kit with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with 3 Dynon HDX screen s and a Garmin 650. I was curious about performance in the community. I have a Barrett engine with cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually r un it at 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get about 1 60 TAS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 50 rich of peak. Does this sound about average for most of you? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> b Site - >>>>>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution >>>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> John Cox


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    Time: 11:08:17 AM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    I will do that. Thanks Robert Jones > On Oct 5, 2021, at 2:23 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > > Right. I would expect they probably flow matched the cylinders as well. I would inspect and clean the #2 injector, then swap it with the #4 injector. That will tell you whether it is the injector or something else. If #4 becomes lean you know it is that injector. If #2 remains lean then either one of the lifters on that cylinder is not operating to spec, or there is an air leak somewhere. > >> On 10/4/2021 7:38 PM, Robert Jones wrote: >> Thanks for the information. I think I will try that first. Barrett matched the injectors to all flow the same, so that may not do any good. It depends on how close they are. The other part of the equation is airflow. Getting the exact amount of air into each cylinder is probably not possible, so adjusting fuel flow to match the air flow available is probably the only way to do it. >> When I try to run lean of peak the engine starts missing some. Probably because my #2 cylinder is just too lean when the others get where they should be. >> Robert Jones >>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:33 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I found it useful to swap my richest injectors with the leanest first. After doing that a couple times, I found my #3&4 were consistently the richest. So I ordered 2 restrictors from Airflow that were 0.005 lower flow size, which got me within the desired 0.5 gph from richest to leanest peak. All of my EGTs run very close now, although I still get a very minor roughness when I go LOP. I have thought about trying on notch leaner yet on those two cylinders, new spark plugs and possibly an electronic replacement for one of my mags. >>> Kelly >>> >>>> On 10/4/2021 1:24 PM, Robert Jones wrote: >>>> Thanks for the tip on Airflow Performance. I have a FM 300 throttle body, but I did not know they tuned injectors. >>>> I used 782 for my brake fluid. >>>> Robert Jones >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 1:19 PM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Did you upgrade brake fluid to Royco 782. Big reason notvto use 5606. >>>>> >>>>> Your potential fuel burn sounds right. Gami are pros on Continental. Consider Airflow Performance of Spartanburg, South Carolina for Lycoming. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:55 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com <mailto:rjones560xl@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am going to gather some data for GAMI to see if they can improve >>>>> how even my EGTs peak. My number 2 cylinder peaks ahead of the >>>>> other 5, which are quite even. I have not been running lean of >>>>> peak because of that. I think I could get my cruise fuel flow >>>>> down to about 10 gal/ hr if I got my injectors tuned better. Time >>>>> will tell. >>>>> >>>>> I used real brake lines made up by All Hoses just down the street. >>>>> I thought the Vans supplied hoses were junk. A friend of mine has >>>>> a custom brake fluid reservoir with a float switch in it. If I can >>>>> get him to build me one I am going to hook it up to a general >>>>> purpose wire on the EMS and build an icon for the Dynon EMS screen >>>>> to display low brake fluid. >>>>> >>>>> I use my middle screen to display engine instruments at 100% in >>>>> normal mode the numbers on a lot of instruments were awfully small >>>>> and I got a friend of mine to modify the file to increase the size >>>>> of the numbers on a few of them. He was so successful that I am >>>>> going to have him increase the size of the numbers on the CHTs >>>>> and EGTs and post the file here. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Jones >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:26 AM, John William Cox <rv10pro@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:rv10pro@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A wise list of components on the build and fuel burn sounds right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you balanced your injectuon jets? Do you cruise Lean of Peak? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you use bonaco brake fluid libes and avoid Nylaflow? >>>>>> >>>>>> John Cox >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 20:37 Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:rjones560xl@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <rjones560xl@gmail.com <mailto:rjones560xl@gmail.com>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I completed N810RK about a year and a half ago. It was a slow >>>>>> build kit with lots of mods and I built my own IFR panel with >>>>>> 3 Dynon HDX screens and a Garmin 650. I was curious about >>>>>> performance in the community. I have a Barrett engine with >>>>>> cold air induction and a Showplanes cowl. I usually run it at >>>>>> 19 inches and 2300 rpm which I can hold up to 13,000 I get >>>>>> about 160 TAS down low and about 175 TAS at 13,000. This >>>>>> takes about 12.3 Gal/hr at 50 rich of peak. Does this sound >>>>>> about average for most of you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Jones >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> -List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" >>>>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>>> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> FORUMS - >>>>>> eferrer noreferrer" >>>>>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>> <http://forums.matronics.com> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> WIKI - >>>>>> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>>>>> <http://wiki.matronics.com> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> b Site - >>>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>>>> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" >>>>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>>> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> John Cox >>> >>> >>> > > >


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    Time: 11:13:59 AM PST US
    From: Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Performance
    I have duel Emag 2006X electronic ignitions. With the hotter spark the engin e should run LOP ok if I get the mixtures even on each cylinder. Robert Jones > On Oct 4, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Dan Masys <dmasys2@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > In spite of GAMI injectors and reasonably matched flows my -10 was never r eally happy running LOP until I swapped a mag for a Surefly electronic ignit ion. Made all the difference. > > Just one plane's story, > -Dan Masys > > > >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:43 PM Robert Jones <rjones560xl@gmail.com> wrote : >> >> Thanks for the information. I think I will try that first. Barrett matche d the injectors to all flow the same, so that may not do any good. It depend s on how close they are. The other part of the equation is airflow. Getting t he exact amount of air into each cylinder is probably not possible, so adjus ting fuel flow to match the air flow available is probably the only way to d o it. >> >> When I try to run lean of peak the engine starts missing some. Probably b ecause my #2 cylinder is just too lean when the others get where they should be. >> >> Robert Jones >> >> >> >> >>




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