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1. 07:36 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Bill Boyd)
2. 07:50 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Bob Leffler)
3. 08:09 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Sam Ritchie)
4. 09:39 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Charlie England)
5. 09:52 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Lew Gallagher)
6. 10:33 AM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Robert Jones)
7. 01:33 PM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Bob Turner)
8. 06:33 PM - Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Dave Saylor)
9. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? (Dave Saylor)
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need these.
Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com> wrote
:
> These are home made.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB
> > Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > --Dave
>
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Subject: | Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
I think you are both in agreement, see the translation!
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> I disagree. Even if you are careful, there is a small percentage of
time that you=99ll not hit the hole. Admittedly, I=99ve ac
cidently let the bogart bar slip a couple times a year. After flying f
or ten years, I had a few paint chips that this covered perfectly. The
n there is an issue if you ever have a lineman attempt to put a tow bar
on. This does a great job of mitigating all these risks.
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:36 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Tow bar hole reinforcement?
>
>
> If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need thes
e.
>
> Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> These are home made.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>> >
>> > =EF=BB
>> > Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Dave
>>
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
Please forgive the intrusion (I have no experience with
nosewheel pant/towbar conflicts), but I'm wondering if a disc (donut) of 3M
clear 'leading edge tape' would accomplish the same thing. Especially if
there were a donut of aluminum bonded to the inside of the pant.
Charlie
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:12 AM Sam Ritchie <sritchie09@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you are both in agreement, see the translation!
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> I disagree. Even if you are careful, there is a small percentage of tim
e
> that you=99ll not hit the hole. Admittedly, I=99ve accident
ly let the bogart
> bar slip a couple times a year. After flying for ten years, I had a few
> paint chips that this covered perfectly. Then there is an issue if you
> ever have a lineman attempt to put a tow bar on. This does a great job o
f
> mitigating all these risks.
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:36 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Tow bar hole reinforcement?
>
>
> If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need these.
>
>
> Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> These are home made.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB
> > Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > --Dave
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
Or as I have done on several nosewheel pants, use a longer capscrew bolt, w
ith a=C2- fender washer between the head and a spacer so that the towbar
stud is outside the pants with the washer flush with the pants surface. The
washer prevents the towbar from ever entering the pants. Works, even for t
ow jockies not familiar with RVs. I got tired of repairing fiberglass rippe
d by the towbar not being on the stud.
Later, - Lew
On 9/25/2022 12:40:41 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
Please forgive the intrusion (I have no experience with nosewheel pant/towb
ar conflicts), but I'm wondering if a disc (donut) of 3M clear 'leading edg
e tape' would accomplish the same thing. Especially if there were a donut o
f aluminum bonded to the inside of the pant.
Charlie
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:12 AM Sam Ritchie <sritchie09@gmail.com [mailto:
sritchie09@gmail.com]> wrote:
I think you are both in agreement, see the translation!
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
I disagree. Even if you are careful, there is a small percentage of time th
at you=99ll not hit the hole. Admittedly, I=99ve accidently let
the bogart bar slip a couple times a year. After flying for ten years, I h
ad a few paint chips that this covered perfectly. Then there is an issue if
you ever have a lineman attempt to put a tow bar on. This does a great job
of mitigating all these risks.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list
-server@matronics.com]> On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tow bar hole reinforcement?
If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need these.
Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com [mailt
o:gspecketer@gmail.com]> wrote:
These are home made.
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com [mailto:s
aylor.dave@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
>
>
>
> --Dave
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
I have something similar made out of aluminum that a friend with a lathe mad
e for me. I just bonded them on to the the wheel pants with structural adhes
ive. There was a short tube turned into the inside as part of it and I set t
hat into cotton flox on the inside to make a metal tube that the tow bar goe
s into. Stainless would probably be better because it is more scratch resist
ant.
Robert Jones
> On Sep 25, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB
> Please forgive the intrusion (I have no experience with nosewheel pant/tow
bar conflicts), but I'm wondering if a disc (donut) of 3M clear 'leading edg
e tape' would accomplish the same thing. Especially if there were a donut of
aluminum bonded to the inside of the pant.
>
> Charlie
>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:12 AM Sam Ritchie <sritchie09@gmail.com> wrote
:
>> I think you are both in agreement, see the translation!
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>> I disagree. Even if you are careful, there is a small percentage of ti
me that you=99ll not hit the hole. Admittedly, I=99ve accident
ly let the bogart bar slip a couple times a year. After flying for ten yea
rs, I had a few paint chips that this covered perfectly. Then there is an i
ssue if you ever have a lineman attempt to put a tow bar on. This does a gr
eat job of mitigating all these risks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matro
nics.com> On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:36 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tow bar hole reinforcement?
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need these.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com> wr
ote:
>>>
>>> These are home made.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote
:
>>> >
>>> > =EF=BB
>>> > Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --Dave
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
I can honestly say I havent had any on/off problems with the Bogart tow bar - once
I figured out a trick, which is to use one of your legs as a fulcrum so you
can fully control the bar while you slowly close the jaws. Now, what line boys
do once out of my sight, I cannot say!
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=507942#507942
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
I did try leading edge tape. It's no match for an angry Bogert.
We use the Bogert bar and an electric tug. The tug is really the culprit
as it's pretty unwieldy.
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 9:42 AM Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Please forgive the intrusion (I have no experience with
> nosewheel pant/towbar conflicts), but I'm wondering if a disc (donut) of
3M
> clear 'leading edge tape' would accomplish the same thing. Especially if
> there were a donut of aluminum bonded to the inside of the pant.
>
> Charlie
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 10:12 AM Sam Ritchie <sritchie09@gmail.com> wrote
:
>
>> I think you are both in agreement, see the translation!
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
>>
>> I disagree. Even if you are careful, there is a small percentage of
>> time that you=99ll not hit the hole. Admittedly, I=99ve ac
cidently let the
>> bogart bar slip a couple times a year. After flying for ten years, I h
ad
>> a few paint chips that this covered perfectly. Then there is an issue
if
>> you ever have a lineman attempt to put a tow bar on. This does a great
job
>> of mitigating all these risks.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <
>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:36 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Tow bar hole reinforcement?
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are very, very careful with your towbar, you will not need these.
>>
>>
>>
>> Translation: Better get a pair; you will need these.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 5:55 PM Gary Specketer <gspecketer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> These are home made.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Sep 24, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Dave Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com> wrote
:
>> >
>> > =EF=BB
>> > Can someone please point me to the vendor for these? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Dave
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Tow bar hole reinforcement? |
Similar, but obviously not always successful: I open the Bogert then
clinch the lever arm open against the fork with my right hand. Then I put
the opposite side of the bar on into the fairing nice and snug. Then (one
very) carefully relax the levered side so it engages. Works 95% of the
time.
On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bob Turner <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I can honestly say I haven=99t had any on/off problems with the Bog
art tow
> bar - once I figured out a trick, which is to use one of your legs as a
> fulcrum so you can fully control the bar while you slowly close the jaws.
> Now, what line boys do once out of my sight, I cannot say!
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=507942#507942
>
>
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