---------------------------------------------------------- RV3-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/12/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:43 AM - Subject: Potential new -3 builder (Bob Hodgson) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 (Ron Rosenberg) 3. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 (Johnny Johnson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:05 AM PST US From: "Bob Hodgson" Subject: Subject: RV3-List: Potential new -3 builder --> RV3-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" Randy, The RV3 gross weights are for aerobatic factors (+6 / -3). I think you could use a higher gross for non-aerobatic flight (especially in the States where you can choose your own gross wt ??) The original RV3 was 1050 lbs with 24 gals fuselage fuel. I think the 1100 lbs refers to a -3 with 30 gals wing fuel. As far as the wing spar is concerned, I suppose the max gross usable for Utility factors would be roughly 1100 x 6 / 4.4 = 1500, but there's more to it than that (gear strength for example). I believe some use around 1250 lbs. I've tried Van's for advice on this, but with no luck. Perhaps you could ask them as you're local, and let us all know! Sorry about the accident. Bob (UK) -3B cockpit ----- Original Message ----- > > Time: 08:55:02 PM PST US > From: "Randy Lervold" > Subject: RV3-List: Potential new -3 builder > > --> RV3-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" > > Having admired the RV-3 for many years now, but having built an RV-8, I am > finally about to take the plunge and order an RV-3 kit. My RV-8 is now gone > and it's time for another project. I'm now in the "due diligence" phase and > have a few questions for you RV-3 guys... > > 1) What gross weight are you using? The Van's number of 1100 lbs with a 775 > lb empty weight leaves a useful load of 330 lbs. Then deducting 180 lbs for > 30 gallons of fuel only leaves 150 lbs for the pilot & gear. I'm not a big > guy, but I do weigh 170 with clothes on. I'm guessing many RV-3s are being > flown at 1200 lbs when full up. Please let me know what your empty weights > and gross weights are. > > 2) I am thinking of putting up an RV-3 web site -- would you guys find a > "registry" listing all builders/owners who wish to be listed, and a few > pertinent facts about each such as power train, empty weights, etc., useful? > > Randy Lervold > RV-3 almost > RV-8 N558RL, 368 hrs > www.rv-8.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:32 AM PST US From: "Ron Rosenberg" Subject: RV3-List: RE: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 --> RV3-List message posted by: "Ron Rosenberg" I bought a flying RV3 with a listed GW of 1175, with an empty weight of 790. Just finished the conversion to the 3B wing (quickbuild). Haven't flown much in the past 6 weeks (business travel and trying to track down an oil leak). My "3" has an O320-E2D and Catto 3-blade. Would like to participate in a "registry". Located North of San Francisco. Ron Rosenberg, PA, MPH Practice Management Resource Group, Inc. www.medicalpmrg.com - (800)230-4923 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV3-List Digest Server Subject: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 * Time: 08:55:02 PM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: RV3-List: Potential new -3 builder --> RV3-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" Having admired the RV-3 for many years now, but having built an RV-8, I am finally about to take the plunge and order an RV-3 kit. My RV-8 is now gone and it's time for another project. I'm now in the "due diligence" phase and have a few questions for you RV-3 guys... 1) What gross weight are you using? The Van's number of 1100 lbs with a 775 lb empty weight leaves a useful load of 330 lbs. Then deducting 180 lbs for 30 gallons of fuel only leaves 150 lbs for the pilot & gear. I'm not a big guy, but I do weigh 170 with clothes on. I'm guessing many RV-3s are being flown at 1200 lbs when full up. Please let me know what your empty weights and gross weights are. 2) I am thinking of putting up an RV-3 web site -- would you guys find a "registry" listing all builders/owners who wish to be listed, and a few pertinent facts about each such as power train, empty weights, etc., useful? Randy Lervold RV-3 almost RV-8 N558RL, 368 hrs www.rv-8.com advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:30 AM PST US From: "Johnny Johnson" Subject: RE: RV3-List: RE: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 --> RV3-List message posted by: "Johnny Johnson" How did the wing conversion go? Does it turn out to be major surgery or is it pretty straight forward? Johnny Johnson 49MM RV-3A -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Rosenberg Subject: RV3-List: RE: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 --> RV3-List message posted by: "Ron Rosenberg" I bought a flying RV3 with a listed GW of 1175, with an empty weight of 790. Just finished the conversion to the 3B wing (quickbuild). Haven't flown much in the past 6 weeks (business travel and trying to track down an oil leak). My "3" has an O320-E2D and Catto 3-blade. Would like to participate in a "registry". Located North of San Francisco. Ron Rosenberg, PA, MPH Practice Management Resource Group, Inc. www.medicalpmrg.com - (800)230-4923 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv3-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV3-List Digest Server Subject: RV3-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/11/04 * Time: 08:55:02 PM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: RV3-List: Potential new -3 builder --> RV3-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" Having admired the RV-3 for many years now, but having built an RV-8, I am finally about to take the plunge and order an RV-3 kit. My RV-8 is now gone and it's time for another project. I'm now in the "due diligence" phase and have a few questions for you RV-3 guys... 1) What gross weight are you using? The Van's number of 1100 lbs with a 775 lb empty weight leaves a useful load of 330 lbs. Then deducting 180 lbs for 30 gallons of fuel only leaves 150 lbs for the pilot & gear. I'm not a big guy, but I do weigh 170 with clothes on. I'm guessing many RV-3s are being flown at 1200 lbs when full up. Please let me know what your empty weights and gross weights are. 2) I am thinking of putting up an RV-3 web site -- would you guys find a "registry" listing all builders/owners who wish to be listed, and a few pertinent facts about each such as power train, empty weights, etc., useful? Randy Lervold RV-3 almost RV-8 N558RL, 368 hrs www.rv-8.com advertising on the Matronics Forums.