---------------------------------------------------------- RV3-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/29/04: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:03 AM - Re: Propeller Group Buy? (rob ray) 2. 08:39 AM - Re: Propeller Group Buy? (LessDragProd@aol.com) 3. 10:47 AM - Re: Propeller Group Buy? (rob ray) 4. 11:53 AM - Re: Propeller Group Buy? (Arvil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:47 AM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: RV3-List: Propeller Group Buy? --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray Hi Jim; I just spent 2 days up in Deland FL at the MT dealership hanging out with Jurgen the engineer. He offered me a price on the MT electric for my Lycoming 0-320 better than Van's price with an out the door on your airplane of $8300 for the 2 blade. Could a group buy beat that? Rob Ray Bob Hodgson wrote: --> RV3-List message posted by: "Bob Hodgson" Jim, I could be interested, but for aerobatics, the hydraulic prop is supposed to be preferable isn't it? Is this difficult / impossible to fit on the LOM engine? Bob (UK) RV3B, 0-320-A2B, Pacesetter 68x69 12" spinner, long cowl Inverted systems (if I can fit them in!) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV3-List Digest Server" > Time: 04:34:03 PM PST US > From: LessDragProd@aol.com > Subject: RV3-List: Propeller Group Buy? > > --> RV3-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com > > Hi All, > > Is there a group of RV-3 owners/builders that are interested in an MT 2 > blade electric CS propeller? > > This would be a 70" dia propeller. Instead of Van's 72" dia. MT Propeller. > > I'm not sure how practical group buy would be. The first RV-3 I've checked > has a 12" dia. spinner with a 3 7/8" distance from the front of the cowl > ring to the propeller hub mounting surface on the ring gear. > I don't believe the cowl installation was very consistent on the RV-3. I > remember there being 3 different styles of cowls, before they were > "standardized". > > I talked to Van's about the RV-7 and RV-8 cowl installation (newer cowls), > and was told the cowl is mounted to the propeller spinner. > And the people on the list recommend that you don't use the propeller to > mount the cowl. Go figure. > > I would appreciate knowing what some of your RV-3 spinner diameter and cowl > distances are, if you have the time to measure this. > > (The older RV-3 had a 12" spinner, and I believe the new RV-3's have 13" > spinners.) > > Jim Ayers > jeayers1@aol.com > OEM Distributor for MT Propeller. ==================================== --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:29 AM PST US From: LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: RV3-List: Propeller Group Buy? --> RV3-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com In a message dated 02/29/2004 7:04:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, smokyray@yahoo.com writes: --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray Hi Jim; I just spent 2 days up in Deland FL at the MT dealership hanging out with Jurgen the engineer. He offered me a price on the MT electric for my Lycoming 0-320 better than Van's price with an out the door on your airplane of $8300 for the 2 blade. Could a group buy beat that? Rob Ray Hi Rob, The group buy can beat Van's price, delivered to your door. However, it won't install the propeller and governor on your aircraft. Van's price delivered to the nearest assembly center is $7,750. Assembly costs vary from $300 to $450, according to MT Propeller. Plus delivery to your door. Again, that's not out the door on the aircraft. I'm trying to get an answer back from MT Propeller regarding assembled delivery costs of the 2 blade propeller direct to the customer. Until I get an answer back on direct delivery costs, I won't have a firm price. I need 16 orders for the group buy. I have 8 people presently interested. Without the group buy, (for a 2 blade propeller) I believe I can meet Van's direct cost, except delivered assembled to the customers door. This would save the $300 to $450 assembly cost plus a possible second shipping cost from the assembly facility to the customers door. A group buy should see an additional $300 to $400 savings for a propeller delivered assembled to the customers door. Again, until I have an answer back from MT Propeller on the 2 blade assembled shipping costs direct to the customer, I won't have a firm price. Hopefully, I'll have an answer by Monday morning. For anyone that wants the standard MT Propeller offered by Van's Aircraft, please order your propeller directly through them. (My lawyer required me to say this. :-) ) Jim Ayers ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:41 AM PST US From: rob ray Subject: Re: RV3-List: Propeller Group Buy? --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray Hi Jim; I like your thinking. Count me in on the group buy and let me know if you need anything up front. I have all the dimensions they need already recorded at MT in FL, it should make it easy for them, and you. See ya! Rob Ray LessDragProd@aol.com wrote: --> RV3-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com In a message dated 02/29/2004 7:04:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, smokyray@yahoo.com writes: --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray Hi Jim; I just spent 2 days up in Deland FL at the MT dealership hanging out with Jurgen the engineer. He offered me a price on the MT electric for my Lycoming 0-320 better than Van's price with an out the door on your airplane of $8300 for the 2 blade. Could a group buy beat that? Rob Ray Hi Rob, The group buy can beat Van's price, delivered to your door. However, it won't install the propeller and governor on your aircraft. Van's price delivered to the nearest assembly center is $7,750. Assembly costs vary from $300 to $450, according to MT Propeller. Plus delivery to your door. Again, that's not out the door on the aircraft. I'm trying to get an answer back from MT Propeller regarding assembled delivery costs of the 2 blade propeller direct to the customer. Until I get an answer back on direct delivery costs, I won't have a firm price. I need 16 orders for the group buy. I have 8 people presently interested. Without the group buy, (for a 2 blade propeller) I believe I can meet Van's direct cost, except delivered assembled to the customers door. This would save the $300 to $450 assembly cost plus a possible second shipping cost from the assembly facility to the customers door. A group buy should see an additional $300 to $400 savings for a propeller delivered assembled to the customers door. Again, until I have an answer back from MT Propeller on the 2 blade assembled shipping costs direct to the customer, I won't have a firm price. Hopefully, I'll have an answer by Monday morning. For anyone that wants the standard MT Propeller offered by Van's Aircraft, please order your propeller directly through them. (My lawyer required me to say this. :-) ) Jim Ayers --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:13 AM PST US From: Arvil Subject: Re: RV3-List: Propeller Group Buy? --> RV3-List message posted by: Arvil Thats a perty good savings! rob ray wrote: > --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray > > Hi Jim; > > I like your thinking. Count me in on the group buy and let me know if you need anything up front. I have all the dimensions they need already recorded at MT in FL, it should make it easy for them, and you. See ya! > > Rob Ray > > LessDragProd@aol.com wrote: > --> RV3-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com > > In a message dated 02/29/2004 7:04:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, > smokyray@yahoo.com writes: > --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray > > Hi Jim; > > I just spent 2 days up in Deland FL at the MT dealership hanging out with > Jurgen the engineer. He offered me a price on the MT electric for my Lycoming > 0-320 better than Van's price with an out the door on your airplane of $8300 > for the 2 blade. Could a group buy beat that? > > Rob Ray > Hi Rob, > > The group buy can beat Van's price, delivered to your door. > However, it won't install the propeller and governor on your aircraft. > > Van's price delivered to the nearest assembly center is $7,750. Assembly > costs vary from $300 to $450, according to MT Propeller. Plus delivery to your > door. > Again, that's not out the door on the aircraft. > > I'm trying to get an answer back from MT Propeller regarding assembled > delivery costs of the 2 blade propeller direct to the customer. Until I get an > answer back on direct delivery costs, I won't have a firm price. > > I need 16 orders for the group buy. I have 8 people presently interested. > > Without the group buy, (for a 2 blade propeller) I believe I can meet Van's > direct cost, except delivered assembled to the customers door. This would save > the $300 to $450 assembly cost plus a possible second shipping cost from the > assembly facility to the customers door. > > A group buy should see an additional $300 to $400 savings for a propeller > delivered assembled to the customers door. > > Again, until I have an answer back from MT Propeller on the 2 blade assembled > shipping costs direct to the customer, I won't have a firm price. > Hopefully, I'll have an answer by Monday morning. > > For anyone that wants the standard MT Propeller offered by Van's Aircraft, > please order your propeller directly through them. (My lawyer required me to > say this. :-) ) > > Jim Ayers > > --------------------------------- >