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     1. 12:03 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
     2. 04:26 AM - Fabian's post (fred bauer)
     3. 04:32 PM - Re: [RV7Yahoo] Aluminum Vents Sale Posting (Fabian Lefler)
     4. 07:31 PM - Re: Fabian's post (rob ray)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] | 
      DNA: do not archive
      
      --> RV3-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
      
      Dear Lister,
      
      Please read over the RV3-List Usage Guidelines below.  The complete
      RV3-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
      following URL:
      
         http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV3-List.FAQ.html
      
      Thank you,
      
      Matt Dralle
      Matronics Email List Administrator
      
      
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                           RV3-List Usage Guidelines
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      The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV3-List.
      You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
      Failure to use the RV3-List in the manner described below may result 
      in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
      
      
      RV3-List Policy Statement
      
      The purpose of the RV3-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
      things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's goals
      are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
      high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
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       - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
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      --> RV3-List message posted by: "fred bauer" <bauerf@charter.net>
      
      Fabian,
      Thank you for making me aware of a potential cost savings in the building of my
      RV3.
      I can't believe anyone had a problem with a post that was not critical of anyone
      or anything but was purely informational.
      
      I guess it gives some people a rush to see their name in print and they would use
      any means to read it there.
      
      To the person harassing Fabian about his post on the air vents.
      "get a life"
      
      Fred Bauer Jr
      builder (not whiner)
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: [RV7Yahoo] Aluminum Vents Sale Posting | 
      
      --> RV3-List message posted by: "Fabian Lefler" <fablef@bellsouth.net>
      
      Thank you everyone for your kind words.
      
      The list and yahoo group exists for one reason and one reason only... to
      share information about building airplanes.  Being a builder myself, I
      am sensitive to that.  Heck, I am the first one to admit that if I had
      to open my e-mail just to sort out what is building related and what is
      not, I would unsubscribe immediately.  Look at the Sport Aviation
      magazine these days.  Can anyone guess what the building articles vs
      advertisement ratio is?  I bet you it is 2 to 1 in favor of advertising.
      As such, after receiving an e-mail message directly from an upset list
      member, I thought the least I could do was to apologize.  I will confess
      that I was bothered by the excessive number of four letter words used in
      his e-mail, not to mention the detailed instructions as to what to do
      with my vents, which involved using parts of my body that never intended
      to suffer that much.
      
      I try very hard not to post silly questions to the list, or answer other
      member's questions, just so that I can close the e-mail with my company
      name below it.  Nor do I regularly advertise that I have something in
      stock on sale just to increase sales for that month.  I had hope that
      before anyone complained about me, he or she would realize that the
      person who posted the message doesn't do it on a regular basis.  I guess
      that doesn't always work with hotheads.
      
      I'll make this e-mail short and sweet and say that, in the future, I
      will let my website, and previously satisfied customers, do the
      advertisement for me.
      
      Hope to meet you all in the near future.
      
      Fabian
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fabian's post | 
      
      --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
      
      Amen Fred, I also had no problem with Fabian's post and appreciated his candor.
      To the bozo who complained, here's how we settle differences in fighter squadrons.....outside!
      
      Rob Ray
      
      fred bauer <bauerf@CHARTER.NET> wrote:
      --> RV3-List message posted by: "fred bauer" 
      
      Fabian,
      Thank you for making me aware of a potential cost savings in the building of my
      RV3.
      I can't believe anyone had a problem with a post that was not critical of anyone
      or anything but was purely informational.
      
      I guess it gives some people a rush to see their name in print and they would use
      any means to read it there.
      
      To the person harassing Fabian about his post on the air vents.
      "get a life"
      
      Fred Bauer Jr
      builder (not whiner)
      
      
                      
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