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Sat 11/19/05


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 10:21 AM - overhauling mags (Jim)
     2. 11:44 AM - Re: overhauling mags (rob ray)
     3. 12:30 PM - Re: overhauling mags (Jim)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:21:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
    "RV3 list" <RV3-List@matronics.com>, "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: overhauling mags
    INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912;INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV3-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net> Hi gang - Well it looks like a reasonably priced overhaul or rebuild of your mags has gone down the tubes. You can thank your FAA for that. In order to rebuild and certify aircraft parts the requirements for a shop are intolerable. My cousin would do the best job you could pay for but he would have to completely change his shop setup. The OH shop would have to be contained in it's own separate environment and all parts would have to have cetification and be kept separate from any non-certified parts and hardware - this includes screws, washers, etc. I agree with him that this is too much trouble to go to for a part time activity. Given the necessary changes, etc. it wouldn't pencil out for the consumer. He would have to charge the same as any shop. We haven't even addressed the insurance requirements. Sorry to get your hopes up. On the other hand, if the owner didn't care about an 8313 or whatever it is, it might be a different story. jim


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    Time: 11:44:54 AM PST US
    From: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: overhauling mags
    --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> Jim, First and foremost, certification is only required for "certified" airplanes. Last I checked the RV3 and rocket are "experimental". You can rebuild your mags or have them rebuilt by anyone who knows what they are doing as long as it is used on an experimental application and you keep your engine experimental. I run one Bendix mag and one Rose electronic ignition. My mag was rebuilt by a reputable airboat engine shop near me who also built my custom 0-320. They used all new parts and it works better now than ever. There are no yellow tags anywhere to be found and I like it that way...If you would like one rebuilt, email me off line. my 2 pennies... Rob Ray Jim <n144hr@earthlink.net> wrote: --> RV3-List message posted by: "Jim" Hi gang - Well it looks like a reasonably priced overhaul or rebuild of your mags has gone down the tubes. You can thank your FAA for that. In order to rebuild and certify aircraft parts the requirements for a shop are intolerable. My cousin would do the best job you could pay for but he would have to completely change his shop setup. The OH shop would have to be contained in it's own separate environment and all parts would have to have cetification and be kept separate from any non-certified parts and hardware - this includes screws, washers, etc. I agree with him that this is too much trouble to go to for a part time activity. Given the necessary changes, etc. it wouldn't pencil out for the consumer. He would have to charge the same as any shop. We haven't even addressed the insurance requirements. Sorry to get your hopes up. On the other hand, if the owner didn't care about an 8313 or whatever it is, it might be a different story. jim ---------------------------------


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    Time: 12:30:25 PM PST US
    From: Jim <n144hr@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: overhauling mags
    --> RV3-List message posted by: Jim <n144hr@earthlink.net> Thanks Rob - What started this was me shooting off my mouth about what a great A&P my cousin is and I would see if he wanted to do this part time (he's retired) for the listers. He is a good A&P, but he is only concerned about the engines that are to stay certified. He doesn't want to be involved in the litigation arising from a crash. Generally the estate (if there is a fatality) will sue everyone the blood-sucking lawyers can think of (if this offends litigation lawyers it's o.k. by me). My cousin would rather not be one of the sue-ees (no pun intended - just worked out that way - lol). jim -----Original Message----- From: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RV3-List: overhauling mags --> RV3-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> Jim, First and foremost, certification is only required for "certified" airplanes. Last I checked the RV3 and rocket are "experimental". You can rebuild your mags or have them rebuilt by anyone who knows what they are doing as long as it is used on an experimental application and you keep your engine experimental. I run one Bendix mag and one Rose electronic ignition. My mag was rebuilt by a reputable airboat engine shop near me who also built my custom 0-320. They used all new parts and it works better now than ever. There are no yellow tags anywhere to be found and I like it that way...If you would like one rebuilt, email me off line. my 2 pennies... Rob Ray Jim <n144hr@earthlink.net> wrote: --> RV3-List message posted by: "Jim" Hi gang - Well it looks like a reasonably priced overhaul or rebuild of your mags has gone down the tubes. You can thank your FAA for that. In order to rebuild and certify aircraft parts the requirements for a shop are intolerable. My cousin would do the best job you could pay for but he would have to completely change his shop setup. The OH shop would have to be contained in it's own separate environment and all parts would have to have cetification and be kept separate from any non-certified parts and hardware - this includes screws, washers, etc. I agree with him that this is too much trouble to go to for a part time activity. Given the necessary changes, etc. it wouldn't pencil out for the consumer. He would have to charge the same as any shop. We haven't even addressed the insurance requirements. Sorry to get your hopes up. On the other hand, if the owner didn't care about an 8313 or whatever it is, it might be a different story. jim ---------------------------------




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