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1. 07:41 AM - Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
2. 07:49 AM - Fw: Can't get full elevator travel (C. Rabaut)
3. 08:25 AM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Steve Harris)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
6. 09:21 AM - Fw: Can't get full elevator travel (C. Rabaut)
7. 09:21 AM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Russ Werner)
8. 10:04 AM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
9. 04:16 PM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (rob ray)
10. 04:51 PM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
11. 05:03 PM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (rob ray)
12. 05:20 PM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
13. 05:38 PM - Re: Can't get full elevator travel (rob ray)
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my elevator
travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
this?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even have
the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: Steve Harris <harriss@elcsci.com>
Scott,
I had the same problem on my RV-4. I ended up hogging out for lack of a
better
term some of the bulkhead to get the full travel. I then reinforced that
area
with a piece of angle that also serves as the up elevator stop.
Steve Harris
N144SH
RV-4, 125 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott [mailto:svanarts@unionsafe.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even have
the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want more
I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
that the vertical is bolted to.
My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
the elevator limits are:
25 - 30 deg up
20 - 25 deg down
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Okay, now I've got a better visual picture of what's happening...
The only thing I can think is either;
1- replace the horns (I've got a spare set you can have) and position them
so the travel you need is there, or;
2- cut your current set and have them welded back just enough to achieve the
needed travel....
sorry, with the RV-4's you design and fabricate as you go. But, it's still
the Best of the RV's!
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
> still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even
have
> the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@maui.net>
I had the same problem and the factory told me to grind the elevator horns.
They also said that you could use the angle going across the longerons as
the elevator stop. That needed to be made slightly smaller as well.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want
more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Yep, this is what they told me too. Did you actually grind some material
off of that piece of angle?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Werner [mailto:russ@maui.net]
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@maui.net>
I had the same problem and the factory told me to grind the elevator horns.
They also said that you could use the angle going across the longerons as
the elevator stop. That needed to be made slightly smaller as well.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want
more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Scott;
I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours I
have never needed more, including alot of over the top
acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
never approached full up travel in normal operations.
If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
buffets, until you unload the stick...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and
> called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator
> travel. If I want more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get
> more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the
> top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so
> I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> degrees. Anyone else run into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure didn't buffet. It got
slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear though. I've got 26 deg up
right now. I may just leave well enough alone for now. Now if someone can
just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak I'll be happy! It's
leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of the reservoir.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Scott;
I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours I
have never needed more, including alot of over the top
acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
never approached full up travel in normal operations.
If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
buffets, until you unload the stick...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and
> called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator
> travel. If I want more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get
> more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the
> top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so
> I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> degrees. Anyone else run into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> latest messages.
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| Subject: | Can't get full elevator travel |
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Scott;
It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
white plumbers tape around the fitting, re-tightening
the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped all
my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was so
hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
using it.
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> didn't buffet. It got
> slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> though. I've got 26 deg up
> right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> now. Now if someone can
> just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak
> I'll be happy! It's
> leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> the reservoir.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>
> Scott;
>
> I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours
> I
> have never needed more, including alot of over the
> top
> acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> never approached full up travel in normal
> operations.
> If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
> buffets, until you unload the stick...
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> and
> > called the factory.
> > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> elevator
> > travel. If I want more
> > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> get
> > more travel. What is
> > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> the
> > top of the aft deck
> > that the vertical is bolted to.
> >
> > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> so
> > I'll repost here what
> > the elevator limits are:
> >
> > 25 - 30 deg up
> > 20 - 25 deg down
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> > <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > your holes in the horn
> > (both left & right side).
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> >
> >
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > Scott"
> > <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >
> > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> > flight. That is my
> > elevator
> > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > elevator horn hits the
> > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
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--> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
You have part numbers for that fancy brake line stuff? I'm an idiot when it
comes to that kind of stuff.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Scott;
It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
white plumbers tape around the fitting, re-tightening
the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped all
my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was so
hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
using it.
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> didn't buffet. It got
> slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> though. I've got 26 deg up
> right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> now. Now if someone can
> just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak
> I'll be happy! It's
> leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> the reservoir.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>
> Scott;
>
> I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours
> I
> have never needed more, including alot of over the
> top
> acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> never approached full up travel in normal
> operations.
> If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
> buffets, until you unload the stick...
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> and
> > called the factory.
> > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> elevator
> > travel. If I want more
> > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> get
> > more travel. What is
> > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> the
> > top of the aft deck
> > that the vertical is bolted to.
> >
> > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> so
> > I'll repost here what
> > the elevator limits are:
> >
> > 25 - 30 deg up
> > 20 - 25 deg down
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> > <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > your holes in the horn
> > (both left & right side).
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> >
> >
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > Scott"
> > <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >
> > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> > flight. That is my
> > elevator
> > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > elevator horn hits the
> > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > latest messages.
> > List members.
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--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Scott;
They are #4 sized braided steel, teflon lines. Take
ALL your plastic fittings with you to show them for
the threads/fittings. Find a parker hose dealer in
your area and measure all the lengths you need,
exactly. Tell him it's for you "race car" brakes.
On my RV4 I used 2- 24 inch lines(master to T),2-16
inch lines(master to firewall) and 2-50 inch lines
(outside firewall to wheels). I used 6X90 degree
elbows for the master and wheel cyllinders and 2X90
degree extended elbows with nuts where I went through
the firewall. I went out the side of the rudder pedal
wells with the 90 degree down on the outside pointing
towards the gear leg, 2.5 inches below the top of the
"shelf" and 2 inches from the front. The rudder pedal
travel is not affected. You can save a few bucks by
using aluminum aircraft line or just regular high
pressure parker hose for the length of the gear leg
where you won't see it. I just wanted good lines
EVERYwhere. No more walking up to my airplane with
puddles of red fluid under the wheels...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> You have part numbers for that fancy brake line
> stuff? I'm an idiot when it
> comes to that kind of stuff.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>
> Scott;
>
> It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
> mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
> fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
> The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
> white plumbers tape around the fitting,
> re-tightening
> the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped
> all
> my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
> leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
> steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
> dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
> No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was
> so
> hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
> from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
> using it.
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> > The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> > didn't buffet. It got
> > slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> > though. I've got 26 deg up
> > right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> > now. Now if someone can
> > just give me some advice on how to fix a brake
> leak
> > I'll be happy! It's
> > leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> > the reservoir.
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray@yahoo.com]
> > To: rv4-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> > <smokyray@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Scott;
> >
> > I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850
> hours
> > I
> > have never needed more, including alot of over the
> > top
> > acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> > never approached full up travel in normal
> > operations.
> > If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it
> simply
> > buffets, until you unload the stick...
> >
> > RR
> > --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > wrote:
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen,
> > > Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >
> > > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> > and
> > > called the factory.
> > > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> > elevator
> > > travel. If I want more
> > > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> > get
> > > more travel. What is
> > > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> > the
> > > top of the aft deck
> > > that the vertical is bolted to.
> > >
> > > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> > so
> > > I'll repost here what
> > > the elevator limits are:
> > >
> > > 25 - 30 deg up
> > > 20 - 25 deg down
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> > > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > > travel
> > >
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
> > > <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > >
> > > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > > your holes in the horn
> > > (both left & right side).
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
> > <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > > To: <rv4-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Van
> Artsdalen,
> > > Scott"
> > > <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > > There is one last item keeping me from my
> first
> > > flight. That is my
> > > elevator
> > > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > > elevator horn hits the
> > > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > > Network Manager
> > > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > > 209-946-5116
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Contributions
> > > any other
> > > Forums.
> > >
> > > latest messages.
> > > List members.
> > >
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