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1. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Our tax dollars (WMartensJr@aol.com)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Re: Our tax dollars (rob ray)
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Subject: | Re: RE: Our tax dollars |
--> RV4-List message posted by: WMartensJr@aol.com
Actually, I disagree. Breaking my lurk mode here for a moment, I think the
NSF has provided ample assistance considering the limited space available on
some of those flights and the man-hours involved in supporting transporting an
extra person and his aircraft. Not a small undertaking.
This is a long standing policy regarding treatment of private expeditions in
distress in a hostile environment and not any lack of support for Mr.
Johanson. I personally wish they could have assisted him but if they had it would
set
a bad precedent for every wildcat who wanted to set a record. Mr. Johanson's
effort seemed well planned and executed so I'm not calling him a wildcat but
there are others out there not so responsible as he is. The NSF can't afford
to allow scarce resources for contingencies that unknown individuals might
place upon them. The funds simply don't exist. If you want that policy to change
contact your congressmen to support greater funding and private ventures.
If a group of supporters wants to assist him, Mr. Johanson, it would have to
cover the cost of privately transporting fuel and any other support needed to
get him and his aircraft on their way without assistance from the NSF. It's
doable. It merely depends upon your conviction expressed with dollars.
Not wanting to start a flame war here but agencies have to work within
guidelines. If you want those guidelines changed speak with your vote and
pocketbook.
Sincerely,
Walt
In a message dated 12/11/2003 9:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
pperryrv@hotmail.com writes:
> Our government is spending millions to conduct "engineering and scientific
> research" in Antarctica while Jon J. is doing it for free.
>
> I'm ashamed that the US can't spare the $500 worth of fuel and time to help
> an Ausie who has done more per dollar in the area of engineering research
> than they ever could.
>
> This particular RV-4 aircraft is destined to spend eternity in a museum (if
> he ever stops setting records with it) and the pilot will be in the history
> books of aviation forever. This should be like the next best thing to
> having Lindbergh land in your farm field and our Gov is treating him like a
> vagrant pilot.
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Subject: | Re: RE: Our tax dollars |
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Walt, I agree with your assessment of the NSF. Having been a government employee
most of my adult life, I know how reality is constantly reinforced in situations
requiring venturing beyond the bounds of regulations. I still think the funds
could be acquired by other means, either by donation or a simple loan.
It would be a sad note to our society however when we turn our backs on adventurers
and record-setters in this computer age. I salute anyone attempting to explore
the unknown or break records.
Rob Ray
WMartensJr@aol.com wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: WMartensJr@aol.com
Actually, I disagree. Breaking my lurk mode here for a moment, I think the
NSF has provided ample assistance considering the limited space available on
some of those flights and the man-hours involved in supporting transporting an
extra person and his aircraft. Not a small undertaking.
This is a long standing policy regarding treatment of private expeditions in
distress in a hostile environment and not any lack of support for Mr.
Johanson. I personally wish they could have assisted him but if they had it would
set
a bad precedent for every wildcat who wanted to set a record. Mr. Johanson's
effort seemed well planned and executed so I'm not calling him a wildcat but
there are others out there not so responsible as he is. The NSF can't afford
to allow scarce resources for contingencies that unknown individuals might
place upon them. The funds simply don't exist. If you want that policy to change
contact your congressmen to support greater funding and private ventures.
If a group of supporters wants to assist him, Mr. Johanson, it would have to
cover the cost of privately transporting fuel and any other support needed to
get him and his aircraft on their way without assistance from the NSF. It's
doable. It merely depends upon your conviction expressed with dollars.
Not wanting to start a flame war here but agencies have to work within
guidelines. If you want those guidelines changed speak with your vote and
pocketbook.
Sincerely,
Walt
In a message dated 12/11/2003 9:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
pperryrv@hotmail.com writes:
> Our government is spending millions to conduct "engineering and scientific
> research" in Antarctica while Jon J. is doing it for free.
>
> I'm ashamed that the US can't spare the $500 worth of fuel and time to help
> an Ausie who has done more per dollar in the area of engineering research
> than they ever could.
>
> This particular RV-4 aircraft is destined to spend eternity in a museum (if
> he ever stops setting records with it) and the pilot will be in the history
> books of aviation forever. This should be like the next best thing to
> having Lindbergh land in your farm field and our Gov is treating him like a
> vagrant pilot.
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