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Subject: | Re: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/04 |
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Nick, How much money do you have to spend? The January 2004 Kitplanes ranks the
best XC kitplanes and in the "bang for the buck" category or in your case, "bang
for the pound", the RV4 was #2 only to the Mustang II. The RV8 was #10. Why?
COST!
Bottom line, flown correctly, my RV4 can whip a 180HP Pitts in a dogfight, haul
the same exact useful load as a super cub, and outrun alot of light twins, and
cost less than $30,000 US to put together in 97'. Yes, I am a bit partial to
the design, but I have flown the RV8 and it is heavier and just doesn't fly
the same as a 4.
If you build an RV4, your Pitts will end up gathering dust...
My two cents worth.
Rob Ray
1100 hours RV4 (300 inverted)
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Total Messages Posted Mon 01/12/04: 3
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1. 05:25 AM - Help Please (Nic Hart)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Help Please (Bill Gunn)
3. 02:46 PM - Wow... Weee... Wayne (C. Rabaut)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 05:25:40 AM PST US
From: "Nic Hart"
Subject: RV4-List: Help Please
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Nic Hart"
I am a UK based Pitts pilot - looking for a second aircraft with two seats
and a touring capability. I have shortlisted two aircraft - either the RV4
or the RV8.
I would like to do gentle aeros but I am primarily looking for a tourer. I
would be grateful of any comments and advice on selection between the two
aircraft. I am 6 feet tall and weigh twelve and half stone, with a similar
passenger. I would like to have rear seat controls and instruments if
possible. My aim would be to purchase a really good low airtime example in
the USA and ship it home.
Many thanks in anticipation for your help,
Nic
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:06:02 AM PST US
From: "Bill Gunn"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Help Please
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Bill Gunn"
Nic - 6 feet and 12 stone X two = a very full RV 4 (no aero in this configuration!)
or an RV 8. I have an RV 4, am 6'2", about 15 stone, so am limited in my
passenger capacity. BTW, in my ownership of the smallest air frame I can fit
into, I did own an Turbulent (G-AWBM) in the 70s in the UK - great fun. (I was
much lighter then!).
>>> Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk 01/12/04 07:25AM >>>
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Nic Hart"
I am a UK based Pitts pilot - looking for a second aircraft with two seats
and a touring capability. I have shortlisted two aircraft - either the RV4
or the RV8.
I would like to do gentle aeros but I am primarily looking for a tourer. I
would be grateful of any comments and advice on selection between the two
aircraft. I am 6 feet tall and weigh twelve and half stone, with a similar
passenger. I would like to have rear seat controls and instruments if
possible. My aim would be to purchase a really good low airtime example in
the USA and ship it home.
Many thanks in anticipation for your help,
Nic
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 02:46:14 PM PST US
From: "C. Rabaut"
Subject: RV4-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
--> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
Okay Guys & Gals,
I just had my first aerobatic "lesson" from Wayne Handley in his Extra 300L. I've seen him fly many times before, but never had the honor/opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from him. Wayne is a GREAT instructor. And I apparently don't have too many engrained bad habits. If you're interested go to www.waynehandley.com he's reasonably priced (for his experience, skill & knowledge level) if you're located somewhere close to central California. God that 300L flys nice, good acceleration, quick roll-rate, and overall very responsive! It has all the amenities of a Lexus; and I thought I liked Rockets a lot. It kinda' feels like I've been cheating on my best gal (my RV-4); but Hell I've gotten over "that feeling" before.
Well what can I say... Wayne says I got "okay" rolls, "almost perfect" loops
(he showed me how to make 'em watermelons or elliptical, or just about any
shape), good half-cubans, good stalls/spins, lousy knife edges, as well as so/so
immelmans & split "S"es. Next time we're gonna work on hammerheads, inverted
flat spins, out side loops, and some other harder negative G stuff like that...
maybe even a "Lumpy Chek" if I can get through/learn real snap rolls.
This time, during our lunch break, we went for Mexican. I had a large burrito
that later kept causing me to burp after anything around 4 G's (thank goodness
I was flyin' back seat with the eyeball vents opened & the heat on).
Okay, now I can no longer brag that "I'm completely self taught" when it comes
to aerobatics; but I can say I'm still learning, I'm getting better, and my
maneuvers are crisper/cleaner. I HIGHLY recommend Wayne Handley and can say
(now from experience) that although being self-taught is cheap and not necessarily
bad per se... it's definitely not the best way to go. Having someone
who KNOWS their stuff (as Wayne certainly does) accelerates the learning curve
and virtually eliminates the adrenaline caused by the fear factor (but there's
still enough adrenaline pumping so you can still get your fix). Take care
& Take air my friends,
Chuck
skinny, dumb & happy.... DNA
do not archive
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