---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/13/04: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:00 AM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/04 (rob ray) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:41 AM PST US From: rob ray Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/04 --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray Nick, How much money do you have to spend? The January 2004 Kitplanes ranks the best XC kitplanes and in the "bang for the buck" category or in your case, "bang for the pound", the RV4 was #2 only to the Mustang II. The RV8 was #10. Why? COST! Bottom line, flown correctly, my RV4 can whip a 180HP Pitts in a dogfight, haul the same exact useful load as a super cub, and outrun alot of light twins, and cost less than $30,000 US to put together in 97'. Yes, I am a bit partial to the design, but I have flown the RV8 and it is heavier and just doesn't fly the same as a 4. If you build an RV4, your Pitts will end up gathering dust... My two cents worth. Rob Ray 1100 hours RV4 (300 inverted) RV4-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete RV4-List Digest can be also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV4-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv4-list/Digest.RV4-List.2004-01-12.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv4-list/Digest.RV4-List.2004-01-12.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/12/04: 3 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - Help Please (Nic Hart) 2. 06:06 AM - Re: Help Please (Bill Gunn) 3. 02:46 PM - Wow... Weee... Wayne (C. Rabaut) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:40 AM PST US From: "Nic Hart" Subject: RV4-List: Help Please --> RV4-List message posted by: "Nic Hart" I am a UK based Pitts pilot - looking for a second aircraft with two seats and a touring capability. I have shortlisted two aircraft - either the RV4 or the RV8. I would like to do gentle aeros but I am primarily looking for a tourer. I would be grateful of any comments and advice on selection between the two aircraft. I am 6 feet tall and weigh twelve and half stone, with a similar passenger. I would like to have rear seat controls and instruments if possible. My aim would be to purchase a really good low airtime example in the USA and ship it home. Many thanks in anticipation for your help, Nic ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 AM PST US From: "Bill Gunn" Subject: Re: RV4-List: Help Please --> RV4-List message posted by: "Bill Gunn" Nic - 6 feet and 12 stone X two = a very full RV 4 (no aero in this configuration!) or an RV 8. I have an RV 4, am 6'2", about 15 stone, so am limited in my passenger capacity. BTW, in my ownership of the smallest air frame I can fit into, I did own an Turbulent (G-AWBM) in the 70s in the UK - great fun. (I was much lighter then!). >>> Nic@skyhi.flyer.co.uk 01/12/04 07:25AM >>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Nic Hart" I am a UK based Pitts pilot - looking for a second aircraft with two seats and a touring capability. I have shortlisted two aircraft - either the RV4 or the RV8. I would like to do gentle aeros but I am primarily looking for a tourer. I would be grateful of any comments and advice on selection between the two aircraft. I am 6 feet tall and weigh twelve and half stone, with a similar passenger. I would like to have rear seat controls and instruments if possible. My aim would be to purchase a really good low airtime example in the USA and ship it home. Many thanks in anticipation for your help, Nic ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:14 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: RV4-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Okay Guys & Gals, I just had my first aerobatic "lesson" from Wayne Handley in his Extra 300L. I've seen him fly many times before, but never had the honor/opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from him. Wayne is a GREAT instructor. And I apparently don't have too many engrained bad habits. If you're interested go to www.waynehandley.com he's reasonably priced (for his experience, skill & knowledge level) if you're located somewhere close to central California. God that 300L flys nice, good acceleration, quick roll-rate, and overall very responsive! It has all the amenities of a Lexus; and I thought I liked Rockets a lot. It kinda' feels like I've been cheating on my best gal (my RV-4); but Hell I've gotten over "that feeling" before. Well what can I say... Wayne says I got "okay" rolls, "almost perfect" loops (he showed me how to make 'em watermelons or elliptical, or just about any shape), good half-cubans, good stalls/spins, lousy knife edges, as well as so/so immelmans & split "S"es. Next time we're gonna work on hammerheads, inverted flat spins, out side loops, and some other harder negative G stuff like that... maybe even a "Lumpy Chek" if I can get through/learn real snap rolls. This time, during our lunch break, we went for Mexican. I had a large burrito that later kept causing me to burp after anything around 4 G's (thank goodness I was flyin' back seat with the eyeball vents opened & the heat on). Okay, now I can no longer brag that "I'm completely self taught" when it comes to aerobatics; but I can say I'm still learning, I'm getting better, and my maneuvers are crisper/cleaner. I HIGHLY recommend Wayne Handley and can say (now from experience) that although being self-taught is cheap and not necessarily bad per se... it's definitely not the best way to go. Having someone who KNOWS their stuff (as Wayne certainly does) accelerates the learning curve and virtually eliminates the adrenaline caused by the fear factor (but there's still enough adrenaline pumping so you can still get your fix). Take care & Take air my friends, Chuck skinny, dumb & happy.... DNA do not archive ============================== ---------------------------------