---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/03/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:36 AM - RV8 Tail Kit for sale (Frank Friedman) 2. 08:39 PM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/02/04 (rob ray) 3. 09:40 PM - Re: Re: RV4-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/02/04 (Arvil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:26 AM PST US From: "Frank Friedman" , , , , , , , , Subject: RV4-List: RV8 Tail Kit for sale --> RV4-List message posted by: "Frank Friedman" Changed projects so RV 8 tail kit for sale. Very little work done. This is a pre punched kit, however it was before the 4130 parts were powder coated. All 4130 parts were primered. Included are preview plans, electric trim kit, 18 years of the RVaitor, Avery temporary assembly pins, 2 construction videos. Vertical stabilizer tip is for a rear position light. Cost for all of this now would be about $1775. Buy it now for $1200. plus shipping before I put it on ebay. Bonus, free delivery within 100 miles of Oshkosh. Yep guys,I'm in OSH, 8-10 minutes to the airport, the downside, Jan temps, 17 days below normal and 4-5 inches of snow last night. Frank at 920-237-3536 or frankzip@charter.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:49 PM PST US From: rob ray Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/02/04 --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray Fabian, for what purpose are you investigating impact weights of the RV4? RR RV4-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete RV4-List Digest can be also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV4-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv4-list/Digest.RV4-List.2004-02-02.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv4-list/Digest.RV4-List.2004-02-02.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/02/04: 4 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) 2. 08:44 AM - landing mass of a RV4 (schoki@klosterquelle.org) 3. 09:27 AM - Re: landing mass of a RV4 (C. Rabaut) 4. 05:07 PM - Re: Landing Mass of An RV-4 (Oldsfolks@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:42 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV4-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> RV4-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Lister, Please read over the RV4-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete RV4-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV4-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV4-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV4-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV4-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV4-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV4-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.] ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:12 AM PST US From: schoki@klosterquelle.org Subject: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 --> RV4-List message posted by: schoki@klosterquelle.org Hello, i am doing a calculated strength verification for a RV 4. Can somebody tell me the maximal landing mass of this aircraft. I have to consider it in the landing impact. Thanks, Fabian Donus ---------------------------- Powered by klosterquelle.org ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:00 AM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Fabian, I'd say that 1700 lbs gross landing weight would cover most every RV-4 out there. I'd certainly be interested in your results. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 > --> RV4-List message posted by: schoki@klosterquelle.org > > Hello, > > i am doing a calculated strength verification for a RV 4. Can > somebody tell me the maximal landing mass of this aircraft. I have to > consider it in the landing impact. > Thanks, > > Fabian Donus > > ---------------------------- > Powered by klosterquelle.org > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:14 PM PST US From: Oldsfolks@aol.com Subject: RV4-List: Re: Landing Mass of An RV-4 --> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com Van's aircraft > vansaircraft.com < 503-678-6545 to get the word from the source of factual information. Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now Charleston, Arkansas "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:56 PM PST US From: Arvil Subject: Re: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/02/04 --> RV4-List message posted by: Arvil Rob, I can save him a lot of trouble with his investigation, none of the Landing gears on the RV-s will hold up under a inpact' period, the plane it was designed to be light and go fast , Light and fast dose not equal strong, so whats the point, ? Arvil rob ray wrote: > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray > > Fabian, for what purpose are you investigating impact weights of the RV4? > > RR > > RV4-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete RV4-List Digest can be also be found in either > of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version of the RV4-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic > text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > Text Version: > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > RV4-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 02/02/04: 4 > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 12:03 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) > 2. 08:44 AM - landing mass of a RV4 (schoki@klosterquelle.org) > 3. 09:27 AM - Re: landing mass of a RV4 (C. Rabaut) > 4. 05:07 PM - Re: Landing Mass of An RV-4 (Oldsfolks@aol.com) > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > Time: 12:03:42 AM PST US > From: Matt Dralle > Subject: RV4-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] > DNA: do not archive > > --> RV4-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > Dear Lister, > > Please read over the RV4-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete > RV4-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the > following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV4-List.FAQ.html > > Thank you, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > ****************************************************************************** > RV4-List Usage Guidelines > ****************************************************************************** > > The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV4-List. > You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. > Failure to use the RV4-List in the manner described below may result > in the removal of the subscribers from the List. > > RV4-List Policy Statement > > The purpose of the RV4-List is to provide a forum of discussion for > things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals > are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver > high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie > among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals > requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of > the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: > > - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit > posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long > lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. > > - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be > relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. > > - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive > that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and > terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and > responses. > > - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, > aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line > about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid > bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary > space in the archive. > > - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is > easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the > web page or FAQ first. > > - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of > your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it > easy to find threads in the archive. > > - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your > response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the > reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that > quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive > can not be overstated! > > - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT > then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the > "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your > response to the original poster. You might have to actively address > your response with the original poster's email address. > > - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something > to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I > agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent > to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. > > - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to > comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly > contribute something valuable. > > - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone > polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack > other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously > controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that > will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. > > ------- > > [This is an automated posting.] > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > Time: 08:44:12 AM PST US > From: schoki@klosterquelle.org > Subject: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 > > --> RV4-List message posted by: schoki@klosterquelle.org > > Hello, > > i am doing a calculated strength verification for a RV 4. Can > somebody tell me the maximal landing mass of this aircraft. I have to > consider it in the landing impact. > Thanks, > > Fabian Donus > > ---------------------------- > Powered by klosterquelle.org > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > Time: 09:27:00 AM PST US > From: "C. Rabaut" > Subject: Re: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" > > Fabian, > > I'd say that 1700 lbs gross landing weight would cover most every RV-4 > out there. I'd certainly be interested in your results. > > Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Subject: RV4-List: landing mass of a RV4 > > > --> RV4-List message posted by: schoki@klosterquelle.org > > > > Hello, > > > > i am doing a calculated strength verification for a RV 4. Can > > somebody tell me the maximal landing mass of this aircraft. I have to > > consider it in the landing impact. > > Thanks, > > > > Fabian Donus > > > > ---------------------------- > > Powered by klosterquelle.org > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > Time: 05:07:14 PM PST US > From: Oldsfolks@aol.com > Subject: RV4-List: Re: Landing Mass of An RV-4 > > --> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com > > Van's aircraft > vansaircraft.com < 503-678-6545 to get the word from the > source of factual information. > > Bob Olds A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor > RV-4 , N1191X , Flying Now > Charleston, Arkansas > "Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers" > > --------------------------------- >