---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/10/04: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:15 AM - Re: CloudCars prop (Rabaut, Chuck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:46 AM PST US Subject: RV4-List: RE: CloudCars prop From: "Rabaut, Chuck" "rv6-list@matronics. com \(E-mail\)" , "rv7-list@matronics. com \(E-mail\)" , "rv8-list@matronics. com \(E-mail\)" , "rv-list@matronics. com \(E-mail\)" 2.6 SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS Similar addresses in recipient list --> RV4-List message posted by: "Rabaut, Chuck" Chris, I agree whole heartedly about props being a critical component on a aircraft. I've been flyin' since 1976 (all sorts of aircraft) and I've been fortunate enough not to have ever had a prop related in-flight problem (though I have experienced "the joy" of several engine out/dead stick landings, but like any thrilling story, those take awhile to tell). What I have learned is that every business starts out as a small "garage business", as you referred to them. Even IBM started in a garage in Menlo Park, Ca. The small businesses are the real innovators, they are the ones who bring the best quality and ideas forward at a "competitive" price; because they have to just to survive. The BIG guys usually just kick back and rely on their name. And... you PAY alot of extra $$$ for their name too. I am not knocking the quality of Sensenich or other big names. But I know that there are high quality, reasonably priced competitors that I would rather support. Heck, if I want a Sensenich label on my prop, Sensenich sells their name stickers in various catalogues too. When I ordered my prop from Jay at CloudCars, I knew exactly what I wanted. However Jay also gave me valuable, knowledgeable advice. Now that I have my prop, Jay is insisting that I hook it up and try it/fly it to see if it performs as I expected it to. Then I send it back for final backing and edge protection, and if I need any pitch or other adjustments he'll do that too. Now I will give updates to the RV-list(s) as I go, but it sure is re-assuring that CloudCars is that interested in making certain I am (as Jay has said) "Completely Satisfied" with my new prop. PaceSetter was not a large company, and unfortunately they are no longer in the business (though I know the guy still makes props on the side). But PaceSetter's quality, reliability and name carried a lot of respect from everyone that I've ever spoken with who has flown on their props. It is very unfortunate that it took several years for their name and word of their quality to spread; I think that was a major part of their downfall. I believe CloudCars is on par with the quality and hence the reliability, of PaceSetter and the BIG named manufactures in the production of their props. I hazard to guess that if/when CloudCars gets well known, their prices will certainly rise as the demand rises for their skilled craftsmanship. But the choice is always up to the consumer. By the way, ask Jay if he builds three (3) bladed props, I just got an inquiry about that. Take care, and take to the Air, Chuck p.s. Chris I hope you don't mind, I'm gonna CC a copy to the RV-list(s) because I think this is a valid discussion topic for experimental builders. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Boultinghouse [mailto:sonexbuilder@yahoo.com] Subject: CloudCars prop Hi Chuck, I saw your post on the RV list about the prop you got from Jay at CloudCars. I dropped him a note about a prop for my Jabiru 3300/Sonex combo, and received a prompt reply (and a picture). His prices are reasonable too (about $250 less than a comparable Sensenich wood prop). My problem is that my wife is uncomfortable with the idea of me buying something as critical as a prop from a "garage business". I was hoping you'd be able to offer some insight into the craftmanship and perceived design of the prop. Have you flown yours yet? I'm not averted to spending the money for a Sensenich (or Prince) but I do like to save a buck and help the little guy as long as I'm not risking my butt to do so! Thanks for your thoughts. ===== Best Regards, Chris Boultinghouse Austin, TX Sonex N260SX (reserved) http://sonex260.wheelsup.org __________________________________ http://messenger.yahoo.com/