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     1. 05:52 AM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/03/04 (SSPRING83@aol.com)
     2. 06:51 AM - Re: RV-4 back seat heat (rob ray)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 12/03/04 | 
      
      --> RV4-List message posted by: SSPRING83@aol.com
      
                    RE....... Back seat heat.
        Rick, I have my heat come from the bottom of my firewall mounted oil cooler 
      and regulate it with a cable controlled flapper valve. I am in the Northeast 
      where it is cold in the winter and have never had anyone say that they were 
      cold in the back seat. 
                           You might want to try this out before you go cutting any 
      holes that you might not like later on down the road.
                          Be glad to offer you suggestions if you want to reply 
      offline.
                                                         Regards...... George 
      Spring........ Connecticut
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-4 back seat heat | 
      
      --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
      
      Scott;
      
      I had to accept making a plastic duct from the Home Depot Aviation Dept (plastic
      electrical conduit)over the spar between my legs. It exits just behind the stick
      in front of the spar and ducts over underneath my right leg. I hid it behind
      my seat cushion and I get a small amount of residual heat through it.  In
      the summer I unhook it and remove it. I know it's not the ultimate setup, but
      it works...While installing it I came up with an idea if I was building of running
      scat or 1" pvc alongside the cockpit wall through the bulkheads to the back
      seat. I may still try that. Good Luck!
      
      See ya!
      
      Rob Ray
      
      Scott VanArtsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> wrote:
      --> RV4-List message posted by: Scott VanArtsdalen 
      
      Hey Smoky, how did you get the scat past the spar? I have a wife with 
      the same gripe.
      
      rob ray wrote:
      
      >--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray 
      >
      >Warren, 
      >
      > When I finished my RV4 in 97', I was living in N. VA and had a single small heat
      muff through a Van's heat box on the firewall. Flying in the winter, it cooked
      my right foot, but the cockpit stayed cold and my girlfriend backseater froze
      her butt riding back there. (not popular) So, to try to keep her hot (so
      to speak) I made a flange on the exit tube under the right rudder pedal with a
      1" scat tube exiting under the floor and back alongside the stick well to the
      RCP into a airline style eyeball vent. I route all my heat behind me now. The
      firewall, even with insulation stays warm in the winter, so it was a good call.
      I also sealed every air leak in the cockpit and canopy frame I could find which
      really helped the problem. Now my backseater has a warm butt...(sts)
      >
      >If I had it to do over again, I would drill small holes into my passenger footwells
      and route Scat behind them with a valve up front to open and close off the
      heat to the "foot warmer" heat provided. 
      >Now that would be "the goo"
      >
      >Rob Ray
      >
      >"Moore, Warren" wrote:
      >--> RV4-List message posted by: "Moore, Warren" 
      >
      >I did this after the wings were attached to run a 1 3/4 inch scat tube from
      >the bottom of the right wing for front and back fresh air, not for heat.
      >(live in Southern California) I used a 90 deg attachment to my electric
      >drill, and a 1 3/4 inch metal hole saw I bought at Sears. Then used my
      >Dremel tool to polish it out. Crude but worked well. Just be hyper careful
      >not to hit any of the Spar web spredders!
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: Richard Stoffel [mailto:rickstoffel@sbcglobal.net]
      >To: rv4-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: RV4-List: RV-4 back seat heat
      >
      >
      >--> RV4-List message posted by: Richard Stoffel 
      >
      >Hello,
      >
      >I see Van's suggested routing for a 2" scat tube for back seat heat. A few
      >questions: (1) Anyone have any experience on how this works (is it worth
      >it?) (2) How do you cut the holes through the F-404 webs and the spar webs
      >that are sandwiched in between the two F-404 webs? The only thing I can
      >think of is an adjustable fly-cutter, but I was wondering if you'd have
      >enough access (clearance) with all of the other pieces in place. Right now
      >I have the forward fuselage pieces (frame) riveted together without the
      >skins on yet, but I can't install the wings due to limited space. So i t
      >looks to me like you have to wait until the end to do this?
      >
      >Any suggestions?
      >
      >Thanks
      >
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      -- 
      Scott VanArtsdalen
      Van Arts Consulting Services
      3848 McHenry Ave
      Suite #155-184
      Modesto, CA 95356
      209-986-4647
      Ps 34:4,6
      
      
                      
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