---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/20/05: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:53 AM - Re: Electric or manual trim (RVFOURME@aol.com) 2. 11:23 AM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/19/05 (rob ray) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:45 AM PST US From: RVFOURME@aol.com Subject: Re: RV4-List: Electric or manual trim --> RV4-List message posted by: RVFOURME@aol.com Steve: The manual trim works just fine. The only minor irritation is when my pivot bolt loosens over time, allowing the trim tab to move when in the extreme up or down position. A periodic tightening fixes all that. yours, Craig P ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:12 AM PST US From: rob ray Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/19/05 --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray Steve, Put in rear seat footwells, skip the pedals. You can make tabs that connect to the cables that work as well with no drilling... Rob Ray RV4-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete RV4-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV4-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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However I would hate to build an aircraft which one day would not sell because they were missing. Is retrofitting the rudder pedals as easy as drilling some holes and bolting them in, or is there a gotcha? Presumably the cables are different because they have a joint at the rear pedals? Thanks again, Steve. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:40 PM PST US From: "Gene Smith" Subject: RV4-List: Rear Rudder Pedals --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith" Steve...................I have them in my -4...I have noticed that most people in the rear seat never use them...They are necessary if they plan to land from the back seat...However, I don't recommend that, because in the flare you can't see much, and with a whisper of x-wind it will probably be a "harry" landing. They do interfere with placing maps approach plates and etc. on either side of your seat...I have the "indented," or "lowered" floor for the GIB for comfort on long trips. The kit has a long shaft that connects the rear pedals with your outside flange of the forward pedals...I don't remember the dia. of the hole you have to drill in your bulkhead to pass the rod through to the fwd pedals, but your instructions should have all that info. My -4 seems to always need right rudder for cruise, so I rigged a spring and a turnbuckle on the right shaft, so it will hold right rudder trim on long trips...If you forget to disconnect before landing, the spring will allow you to use the rudders without any "hard" force. Some guys who have lost their license or medical are able to have friends who are legal to fly ride with them to make it all legal for the Feds. so in that scenario, the rear pedals are required. Hope this info helps you.............Good luck............................CHEERS!!!!......................Gene Smith. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:05 PM PST US From: "H.Ivan Haecker" Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rudder pedals autolearn=no version=3.0.2 --> RV4-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" Steve, I believe you will find that the majority of -4s have no provision for rear seat rudder pedals. I presume this means that the market accepts that as the norm. My vote is that unless you have an actual need for them, leave them out. Disadvantages include more weight, more complexity and more clutter. The cockpit is tight enough as is! If you decide to add them later, I would think the most difficult part would be threading the new shorter cable through the tailcone, and even that doesn't appear overly onerous. Ivan Haecker -4 1168 hrs. S. Cen. TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV4-List: Rudder pedals > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > Sorry guys, another question in the same vein. > > I am in a quandary as to whether to order rear rudder pedals. My normal co-pilot will not want them, and without them she will have more room, and the aircraft will be lighter. However I would hate to build an aircraft which one day would not sell because they were missing. Is retrofitting the rudder pedals as easy as drilling some holes and bolting them in, or is there a gotcha? Presumably the cables are different because they have a joint at the rear pedals? > > Thanks again, Steve. > > ---------------------------------