---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/25/05: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:02 AM - Short strips (Steve Sampson) 2. 09:51 PM - Re: Short strips (arvil@bellsouth.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:20 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV4-List: Short strips --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Arvil - I was interested to read a post you made on the web some time ago. " .......I have a 900 foot strip in north west fla. that is down hill 3 drgees with 60 foot trees at the end of the runnway , using a 50mph. approch speed again with a little power an RV-4 using manual flaps can land in 450 feet with only a little braking and the flaps dumped at tuch down........" I currently fly a Supercub and an RV9A in and out of 1020' beside my home in the UK. I am close to ordering an RV4 kit (and selling the -9A). I have been worrying about the distance the -4 needs to land and getting conflicting messages. Realistically what do you think it stalls at solo and gross with a trickle of power? Also do you fly with a c/s or f/p prop. If f/p how low is the tickover? I have to carry a couple of knots extra on approach sometimes because I have to come between trees which give quite a bit of turbulence in the cross wind - its better in winter when the leaves are gone. Other than the trees I have to come between it is a good approach, but again a wall of trees at the far end. Finally, you seemed to be giving a lot of credit to the manual flaps. Did you really mean that or are you just pointing out that it is even better which I agree with. Thanks, Steve. PS If anyone else has comments please join in. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:37 PM PST US From: arvil@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: RV4-List: Short strips --> RV4-List message posted by: arvil@bellsouth.net Steve, I prefer the manual flaps, but there is nothing wrong with the electric flaps they go up and down at a good rate of travel, and some pilots prefer the elec. flaps on the RV-4 because it gives the passenger a lot more foot room when using the foot wells, the main resion I prefer the manual flaps over the elec. is i can control the flaps by feel and I dont have to worry about weather the flap motor is going to work if Iam landing in a short strip Iam not use to. If you are using a cruise prop it may carry a little more speed on landing but only a little Arvil Steve Sampson wrote: > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" > > Arvil - I was interested to read a post you made on the web some time ago. > > " .......I have a 900 foot strip in north west fla. > that is down hill 3 drgees with 60 foot trees at the end of the runnway , using > a 50mph. approch speed again with a little power an RV-4 using manual flaps > can land in 450 feet with only a little braking and the flaps dumped at tuch > down........" > > I currently fly a Supercub and an RV9A in and out of 1020' beside my home in the UK. I am close to ordering an RV4 kit (and selling the -9A). I have been worrying about the distance the -4 needs to land and getting conflicting messages. Realistically what do you think it stalls at solo and gross with a trickle of power? Also do you fly with a c/s or f/p prop. If f/p how low is the tickover? I have to carry a couple of knots extra on approach sometimes because I have to come between trees which give quite a bit of turbulence in the cross wind - its better in winter when the leaves are gone. Other than the trees I have to come between it is a good approach, but again a wall of trees at the far end. > > Finally, you seemed to be giving a lot of credit to the manual flaps. Did you really mean that or are you just pointing out that it is even better which I agree with. > > Thanks, Steve. > > PS If anyone else has comments please join in. >