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1. 05:28 AM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/05 (Deal Fair)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Holy Cowl (Deal Fair)
3. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/05 (Steve Sampson)
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| Subject: | Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/05 |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
Steve, I confess to knowing just enough to be dangerous with this cowl.
Generally though, Sam and Will James have designed it to replace a "stock"
RV-4 with a fixed pitch prop. In my case, I am using an Aymar-Demuth prop
and a 4" extension. Believe a CS prop would require modifying the cowl
length a few inches. Don't recall if it was shortening or lengthen.
May I suggest calling Will James. I found him to be most helpful and
straight forward. Admittedly, he wants to sell cowls, but he can cut to
some of your tech questions real quick. 850-342-9929. Wish I could be more
help.
Good Luck,
Deal Fair
> Time: 10:59:10 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Re: Holy Cowl
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
> <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>
> George - thanks for the reply.Tell me do you understand the length issue?
> I
> would want to put the cowl on an O-320 with an MT constant speed prop. Do
> you know if that works, or do they still they still need this 4" spacer,
> because that is clearly not a option with an MT prop on the front. I would
> be very grateful if you have managed to understand this issue and can
> explain. Thanks, Steve.
>
> PS What rebate did you get from VANS on the finish kit presumably without
> a
> cowl kit?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
> Subject: RV4-List: Re: Holy Cowl
>
>
>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I just received my Holy Cowl last Thursday and should receive the plenum
>> this week. Everything I have heard prior to purchase, pretty much tracks
>> what Rob said.
>>
>> Oh well.....it sure looks good and will keep me outta beer joints for
>> awhile. Will report back later
>>
>> Deal Fair
>> (N34CB - flying)
>> George West, TX
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RV4-List Digest Server" <rv4-list-digest@matronics.com>
>> To: "RV4-List Digest List" <rv4-list-digest@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 10/07/05
>>>
>>> 1. 11:26 AM - Holy Cowl (Steve Sampson)
>>> 2. 05:12 PM - Re: Holy Cowl (rob ray)
>>> 3. 10:13 PM - Re: Holy Cowl (Steve Sampson)
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 11:26:25 AM PST US
>>> From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>>> Subject: RV4-List: Holy Cowl
>>>
>>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
>>> <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>>>
>>> Has anyone on this group experience of the 'Holy Cowl'? See
>>> http://www.jamesaircraft.com/About_Us.html
>>>
>>> I would be interested to hear of peoples experience.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steve
>>> PA18 G-BVMI
>>> RV-9A G-IINI (for sale)
>>> RV4 kit on order No.4478
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 2
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 05:12:50 PM PST US
>>> From: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Holy Cowl
>>>
>>> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Steve, I helped two friends convert RV4's from standard to the Holy
>>> Cowl.
>>> After
>>> all was said and done I raced both airplanes with my stock RV4 before
>>> and
>>> after
>>> and noticed very little change. Alot of work and money for the
>>> conversion
>>> that
>>> I would have rather spent on gas.One thing I did like was the James
>>> plenum
>>> chamber, but you could make one out of aluminum that would work fine for
>>> alot
>>> less $$. The Van's cowl works just fine.
>>> Keep it light and stock, install a strong 160-170HP 0-320 and
>>> composite
>>> prop,
>>> minimum panel, odyessey battery and keep it under 950 lbs and you'll
>>> love
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I sure do...
>>>
>>> Rob Ray
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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--> RV4-List message posted by: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
Steve, one more thing to consider about the holy cowl is the cost of shipping from
Florida. It cost $362.61 to get it to my house in George West, TX. Shipping
the plenum is prepaid.
As far as this cowl being of any practical value to you, it probably will NOT.
I did not factor the shipping cost into my planning. I bought this strictly
for cosmetic reasons. Rob Ray is correct when he says the cost will buy a lot
of fuel.
You can have a solid state transponder with money to spare for the cost of one
of these. Every time I look at the new cowl, I'm going to think about that.
Is it worth it to sit on the ground and look pretty?????
I have to stay out of beer joints now because I can't afford a beer!
Deal Fair
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| Subject: | Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/05 |
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Deal - thanks for your very full answers. I think its probably the VANS
cowls though I think they were poorly made when I built a -9. Lets hope
the -4 is better. But I will call James. Thanks, Steve.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
Subject: RV4-List: Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/10/05
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
>
> Steve, I confess to knowing just enough to be dangerous with this cowl.
> Generally though, Sam and Will James have designed it to replace a "stock"
> RV-4 with a fixed pitch prop. In my case, I am using an Aymar-Demuth prop
> and a 4" extension. Believe a CS prop would require modifying the cowl
> length a few inches. Don't recall if it was shortening or lengthen.
>
> May I suggest calling Will James. I found him to be most helpful and
> straight forward. Admittedly, he wants to sell cowls, but he can cut to
> some of your tech questions real quick. 850-342-9929. Wish I could be
> more
> help.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Deal Fair
>> Time: 10:59:10 AM PST US
>> From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Re: Holy Cowl
>>
>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
>> <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>>
>> George - thanks for the reply.Tell me do you understand the length issue?
>> I
>> would want to put the cowl on an O-320 with an MT constant speed prop. Do
>> you know if that works, or do they still they still need this 4" spacer,
>> because that is clearly not a option with an MT prop on the front. I
>> would
>> be very grateful if you have managed to understand this issue and can
>> explain. Thanks, Steve.
>>
>> PS What rebate did you get from VANS on the finish kit presumably without
>> a
>> cowl kit?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
>> Subject: RV4-List: Re: Holy Cowl
>>
>>
>>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Deal Fair" <dealfair@usawide.net>
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I just received my Holy Cowl last Thursday and should receive the plenum
>>> this week. Everything I have heard prior to purchase, pretty much
>>> tracks
>>> what Rob said.
>>>
>>> Oh well.....it sure looks good and will keep me outta beer joints for
>>> awhile. Will report back later
>>>
>>> Deal Fair
>>> (N34CB - flying)
>>> George West, TX
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RV4-List Digest Server" <rv4-list-digest@matronics.com>
>>> To: "RV4-List Digest List" <rv4-list-digest@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RV4-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 10/07/05
>>>>
>>>> 1. 11:26 AM - Holy Cowl (Steve Sampson)
>>>> 2. 05:12 PM - Re: Holy Cowl (rob ray)
>>>> 3. 10:13 PM - Re: Holy Cowl (Steve Sampson)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 11:26:25 AM PST US
>>>> From: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>>>> Subject: RV4-List: Holy Cowl
>>>>
>>>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
>>>> <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone on this group experience of the 'Holy Cowl'? See
>>>> http://www.jamesaircraft.com/About_Us.html
>>>>
>>>> I would be interested to hear of peoples experience.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Steve
>>>> PA18 G-BVMI
>>>> RV-9A G-IINI (for sale)
>>>> RV4 kit on order No.4478
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________ Message 2
>>>> _____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time: 05:12:50 PM PST US
>>>> From: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Holy Cowl
>>>>
>>>> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
>>>>
>>>> Steve, I helped two friends convert RV4's from standard to the Holy
>>>> Cowl.
>>>> After
>>>> all was said and done I raced both airplanes with my stock RV4 before
>>>> and
>>>> after
>>>> and noticed very little change. Alot of work and money for the
>>>> conversion
>>>> that
>>>> I would have rather spent on gas.One thing I did like was the James
>>>> plenum
>>>> chamber, but you could make one out of aluminum that would work fine
>>>> for
>>>> alot
>>>> less $$. The Van's cowl works just fine.
>>>> Keep it light and stock, install a strong 160-170HP 0-320 and
>>>> composite
>>>> prop,
>>>> minimum panel, odyessey battery and keep it under 950 lbs and you'll
>>>> love
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> I sure do...
>>>>
>>>> Rob Ray
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> 09/10/2005
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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