---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/11/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Rollbar support structure - help please! (Steve Sampson) 2. 03:10 AM - Re: Rollbar support structure - help please! (Derrick Aubuchon) 3. 05:38 AM - Re: Rollbar support structure - help please! (Steve Sampson) 4. 08:53 AM - Re: Rollbar support structure - help please! (HalBenjamin@aol.com) 5. 11:11 AM - Re: Rollbar support structure - help please! (Steve Sampson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:14 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! I posted this on Vansairforce yesterday buthavnt found out what I need to know so I will repost here. Apologies if you have to suffer my problems twice! I am working on the structure that supports the roll bar. It is supported by a piece of 1"*12 angle about 1/3 of which, according to the plans sits completely hiden by the F-416 canopy rail and about 2/3 of which causes you to cut the canopy rail and flatten it out... you remember. My first attempt resulted in about a 1/4" sticking out at the front as shown in the first picture at http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/ In the second picture I have shimed the F-417 against the F406 bulkhead and now as you can see the front end of the angle is about flush with the canopy rail. Should it work out to the plans or has everyone had this problem. Thanks in advance for the help. Steve #4478 UK ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:24 AM PST US From: Derrick Aubuchon Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! It looks about right to me,, The angle is supposed to sit at an angle,, take the roll bar and "dry fit" to the canopy rails. Just set it on top of the rails and the angles should match. Derrick L. Aubuchon RV-4: N184DA Jackson/Westover -Amador County (O70) n184da@volcano.net On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Steve Sampson wrote: > I posted this on Vansairforce yesterday buthavnt found out what I > need to know so I will repost here. Apologies if you have to suffer > my problems twice! > > I am working on the structure that supports the roll bar. It is > supported by a piece of 1"*12 angle about 1/3 of which, according > to the plans sits completely hiden by the F-416 canopy rail and > about 2/3 of which causes you to cut the canopy rail and flatten it > out... you remember. > > My first attempt resulted in about a 1/4" sticking out at the front > as shown in the first picture at http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/ > > In the second picture I have shimed the F-417 against the F406 > bulkhead and now as you can see the front end of the angle is about > flush with the canopy rail. > > Should it work out to the plans or has everyone had this problem. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > Steve > #4478 > UK > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:04 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! Derrick - thanks for the supportive words. Yes I will check, check and recheck! Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Derrick Aubuchon To: rv4-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! It looks about right to me,, The angle is supposed to sit at an angle,, take the roll bar and "dry fit" to the canopy rails. Just set it on top of the rails and the angles should match. Derrick L. Aubuchon RV-4: N184DA Jackson/Westover -Amador County (O70) n184da@volcano.net On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Steve Sampson wrote: I posted this on Vansairforce yesterday buthavnt found out what I need to know so I will repost here. Apologies if you have to suffer my problems twice! I am working on the structure that supports the roll bar. It is supported by a piece of 1"*12 angle about 1/3 of which, according to the plans sits completely hiden by the F-416 canopy rail and about 2/3 of which causes you to cut the canopy rail and flatten it out... you remember. My first attempt resulted in about a 1/4" sticking out at the front as shown in the first picture at http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/ In the second picture I have shimed the F-417 against the F406 bulkhead and now as you can see the front end of the angle is about flush with the canopy rail. Should it work out to the plans or has everyone had this problem. Thanks in advance for the help. Steve #4478 UK ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System on behalf of the London Business School community. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 09/06/2006 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:00 AM PST US From: HalBenjamin@aol.com Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:13:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, n184da@volcano.net writes: > It looks about right to me,, The angle is supposed to sit at an angle,, > take the roll bar and "dry fit" to the canopy rails. > Just set it on top of the rails and the angles should match. > > > > > Derrick L. Aubuchon > > RV-4: N184DA > > Jackson/Westover -Amador County (O70) > > n184da@volcano.net > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Steve Sampson wrote: > > >> I posted this on Vansairforce yesterday buthavnt found out what I need to >> know so I will repost here. Apologies if you have to suffer my problems >> twice! >> >> I am working on the structure that supports the roll bar. It is supported >> by a piece of 1"*12 angle about 1/3 of which, according to the plans sits >> completely hiden by the F-416 canopy rail and about 2/3 of which causes you to >> cut the canopy rail and flatten it out... you remember. >> >> >> >> > > > > Hi Steve, Derrick is correct....You need to build to fit. Be very carefull and check edge distances closely for the mounting bolts. As I recall, there's not alot of room for error. Hal Benjamin - RV4 Long Island, NY Fuselage - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:18 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! Hal - thanks, yes it seems to be workig out about right. I suspect VANS plan does not quite represent reality! Thanks, Steve. ----- Original Message ----- From: HalBenjamin@aol.com To: rv4-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rollbar support structure - help please! In a message dated 6/11/2006 6:13:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, n184da@volcano.net writes: It looks about right to me,, The angle is supposed to sit at an angle,, take the roll bar and "dry fit" to the canopy rails. Just set it on top of the rails and the angles should match. Derrick L. Aubuchon RV-4: N184DA Jackson/Westover -Amador County (O70) n184da@volcano.net On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Steve Sampson wrote: I posted this on Vansairforce yesterday buthavnt found out what I need to know so I will repost here. Apologies if you have to suffer my problems twice! I am working on the structure that supports the roll bar. It is supported by a piece of 1"*12 angle about 1/3 of which, according to the plans sits completely hiden by the F-416 canopy rail and about 2/3 of which causes you to cut the canopy rail and flatten it out... you remember. Hi Steve, Derrick is correct....You need to build to fit. Be very carefull and check edge distances closely for the mounting bolts. As I recall, there's not alot of room for error. Hal Benjamin - RV4 Long Island, NY Fuselage - ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System on behalf of the London Business School community. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 09/06/2006