---------------------------------------------------------- RV4-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/02/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - Rear seat back (S Sampson) 2. 04:55 AM - Re: Rear seat back (Derrick Aubuchon) 3. 05:26 AM - Re: Rear seat back (Rob Ray) 4. 10:29 AM - Re: Rear seat back (S Sampson) 5. 11:16 AM - Re: Rear seat back (halbenjamin@optonline.net) 6. 11:29 AM - Re: Rear seat back (DFCPAC@aol.com) 7. 02:02 PM - Re: Rear seat back (Derrick Aubuchon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:47 AM PST US From: "S Sampson" Subject: RV4-List: Rear seat back I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how the weight of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. Is the intent that the point contact of the side channels to the bulkhead is the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! Thanks, Steve. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back From: "Derrick Aubuchon" Check Van's website. There is a Service Bulletin (SB 97-05-1), which addresses this very issue. The SB entails installing angles, (or gussets), between the rear seat/baggage bulkhead, and the longerons. > I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how the weight > of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. Is the > intent that the point contact of the side channels to the bulkhead is > the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! > > Thanks, Steve. -- Derrick Aubuchon daubuchon@volcano.net RV 4 N184DA, 500+ hrs Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:53 AM PST US From: Rob Ray Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back Steve, If you restrict your back seat usage to petite, cute girls, you will never have a problem... :) RR Check Van's website. There is a Service Bulletin (SB 97-05-1), which addresses this very issue. The SB entails installing angles, (or gussets), between the rear seat/baggage bulkhead, and the longerons. > I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how the weight > of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. Is the > intent that the point contact of the side channels to the bulkhead is > the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! > > Thanks, Steve. -- Derrick Aubuchon daubuchon@volcano.net RV 4 N184DA, 500+ hrs Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:29 AM PST US From: "S Sampson" Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back Derek - Thanks. Yes, I have read the SB but think that relates to the steel bracket supporting the bulkhead itself. I have those installed.What I am puzzling about is the fact that on the front side of the bulkhead the contact is with the sharp edge of the seat frame. I have put a couple of pictures http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/2007/04/rear-seat-installation.html#links on my blog to try and make my concern clearer. Am I misunderstanding something? Cheers, Steve Smokey, A portfolio of cute girls are largly out for me, (I would probably find half my spar bolts missing) but I trust a cute wife at 112lbs is OK? Still would like to build the thing right though! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derrick Aubuchon" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back > > Check Van's website. > There is a Service Bulletin (SB 97-05-1), which addresses this very issue. > The SB entails installing angles, (or gussets), between the rear > seat/baggage bulkhead, and the longerons. > >> I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how the weight >> of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. Is the >> intent that the point contact of the side channels to the bulkhead is >> the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! >> >> Thanks, Steve. > > > -- > Derrick Aubuchon > daubuchon@volcano.net > RV 4 N184DA, 500+ hrs > Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System > on behalf of the London Business School community. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:35 AM PST US From: halbenjamin@optonline.net Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back Hi Steve, You have it right. I trimmed the side rails to match the angle they at witch they meet the bulkhead. I'm thinking about adding a "wedge" of plastic as well to distribute the load. Hal Benjamin Finish Kit RV4 - Long Island, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: S Sampson Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back > > Derek - Thanks. Yes, I have read the SB but think that relates > to the steel > bracket supporting the bulkhead itself. I have those > installed.What I am > puzzling about is the fact that on the front side of the > bulkhead the > contact is with the sharp edge of the seat frame. I have put a > couple of > pictures > http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/2007/04/rear-seat- > installation.html#linkson my blog to try and make my concern > clearer. Am I misunderstanding > something? > > Cheers, Steve > > Smokey, A portfolio of cute girls are largly out for me, (I > would probably > find half my spar bolts missing) but I trust a cute wife at > 112lbs is OK? > Still would like to build the thing right though! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derrick Aubuchon" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back > > > > > > Check Van's website. > > There is a Service Bulletin (SB 97-05-1), which addresses this > very issue. > > The SB entails installing angles, (or gussets), between the rear > > seat/baggage bulkhead, and the longerons. > > > >> I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how > the weight > >> of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. > Is the > >> intent that the point contact of the side channels to the > bulkhead is > >> the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! > >> > >> Thanks, Steve. > > > > > > -- > > Derrick Aubuchon > > daubuchon@volcano.net > > RV 4 N184DA, 500+ hrs > > Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System > > on behalf of the London Business School community. > > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:36 AM PST US From: DFCPAC@aol.com Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back hi hal, i just read about the rear seat. i'm located on long island with a flying rv-4. located 1n2 spardo's. where are you on long island? danny rv4 N2275S ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back From: "Derrick Aubuchon" Steve, As another builder mentioned, trim the side channel to match the bulkhead. However, keep this in mind, most of the load and contact surface is borne by the to half of the seat back, the fiberglass portioned,, and should be drilled in assembly to match the correct seatback to bulkhead angle. If drilled properly, the entire fiberglass flange should rest against the bulkhead, and only the top portion of the side angle should make contact, below the fiberglass. It's would be best to "dry fit" the fiberglass to the seat back, and place in against the bulkhead in order to eyeball the correct angle on the side rail. Derrick Aubuchon daubuchon@volcano.net RV4: N184DA 500+ hours Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) > > Derek - Thanks. Yes, I have read the SB but think that relates to the > steel bracket supporting the bulkhead itself. I have those > installed.What I am puzzling about is the fact that on the front side > of the bulkhead the contact is with the sharp edge of the seat frame. I > have put a couple of pictures > http://gikonfuse.blogspot.com/2007/04/rear-seat-installation.html#links > on my blog to try and make my concern clearer. Am I misunderstanding > something? > > Cheers, Steve > > Smokey, A portfolio of cute girls are largly out for me, (I would > probably find half my spar bolts missing) but I trust a cute wife at > 112lbs is OK? Still would like to build the thing right though! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derrick Aubuchon" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Rear seat back > > >> >> >> Check Van's website. >> There is a Service Bulletin (SB 97-05-1), which addresses this very >> issue. The SB entails installing angles, (or gussets), between the >> rear seat/baggage bulkhead, and the longerons. >> >>> I am putting the rear seat frame together, and puzzling how the >>> weight of the pax leaning back in it is to be taken by the bulkhead. >>> Is the intent that the point contact of the side channels to the >>> bulkhead is the mechanism? It appears a bit crude! >>> >>> Thanks, Steve. >> >> >> -- >> Derrick Aubuchon >> daubuchon@volcano.net >> RV 4 N184DA, 500+ hrs >> Based @ O70 (Jackson, CA) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System >> on behalf of the London Business School community. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> > > -- daubuchon@volcano.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv4-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV4-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv4-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv4-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.