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Wed 02/05/20


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 01:59 PM - Re: Elevator counterbalance issues.. (Alain Boucher)
     2. 02:35 PM - Re: Elevator counterbalance issues.. (Charlie England)
     3. 05:10 PM - Re: Elevator counterbalance issues.. (Steve Mullins)
     4. 05:21 PM - Re: Elevator counterbalance issues.. (Steve Mullins)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:59:20 PM PST US
    From: Alain Boucher <alainrboucher@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator counterbalance issues..
    Hal is correct, see attached. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu> wrote: > > =EF=BB > Thanks for the tip Hal. Will do. > > Steve Mullins > Professor of Economics > The Breech School of Business > Drury University > =9CPreparing Ethical Leaders for the Global Business Community =9D > > From: owner-rv4-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv4-list-server@matronics .com> On Behalf Of Hal Benjamin > Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 7:02 PM > To: rv4-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Elevator counterbalance issues.. > > Hi Steve, > > I built my RV4, and Did melt lead and pour it in. If I remember correctly, there are bolts that go through the two ribs back to back that form the ele vator counter balance arm. > It you take off the fiberglass tip you might be able to see if the nut(s) h olding a bolt is loose. Let us know if that works. Good luck. > > Hal Benjamin > RV4 > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 4, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu> wrote: > > Hey all. Happy 2020. > > I have an interesting issue that someone may be able to help with. During a preflight last week I noticed the lead counterbalance weight in the leading edge of the elevator rubbing on the leading edge of the horizontal stab. Cl ose inspection showed that the lead had slightly migrated/moved inboard caus ing the friction. My worst fear would be the weight moving enough during fli ght to restrict movement of the elevator. I did not build the AC, but the pl ans show the lead being melted and poured into the leading edge next to the r ib. > > Anyone have any experience with this? Any ideas for a fix? > > Steve Mullins, Professor of Economics <image001.png> > > Breech School of Business Administration > Drury University > =9CPreparing Ethical Leaders for the Global Business Community =9D > 417.873.7299 > >


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    Time: 02:35:08 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator counterbalance issues..
    If I could get to the area and the lead isn't too banged up, I'd be thinking about some really thin epoxy to both fill the gaps and 'glue' it into place. Is that a possibility? Unfortunately, it would likely involve removing the elevator so you could pour the epoxy into the cavities. Charlie On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:02 PM Alain Boucher <alainrboucher@gmail.com> wrote: > Hal is correct, see attached. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 4, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu> wrote: > > =EF=BB > > Thanks for the tip Hal. Will do. > > > Steve Mullins > > Professor of Economics > > The Breech School of Business > > Drury University > > =9CPreparing Ethical Leaders for the Global Business Community =9D > > > *From:* owner-rv4-list-server@matronics.com < > owner-rv4-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Hal Benjamin > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 4, 2020 7:02 PM > *To:* rv4-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV4-List: Elevator counterbalance issues.. > > > Hi Steve, > > > I built my RV4, and Did melt lead and pour it in. If I remember correctly , > there are bolts that go through the two ribs back to back that form the > elevator counter balance arm. > > It you take off the fiberglass tip you might be able to see if the nut(s) > holding a bolt is loose. Let us know if that works. Good luck. > > > Hal Benjamin > > RV4 > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 4, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu> wrote: > > Hey all. Happy 2020. > > > I have an interesting issue that someone may be able to help with. During > a preflight last week I noticed the lead counterbalance weight in the > leading edge of the elevator rubbing on the leading edge of the horizonta l > stab. Close inspection showed that the lead had slightly migrated/moved > inboard causing the friction. My worst fear would be the weight moving > enough during flight to restrict movement of the elevator. I did not buil d > the AC, but the plans show the lead being melted and poured into the > leading edge next to the rib. > > > Anyone have any experience with this? Any ideas for a fix? > > > Steve Mullins, Professor of Economics <image001.png> > > > *Breech School of Business Administration* > > *Drury University* > > *=9CPreparing Ethical Leaders for the Global Business Community =9D * > > 417.873.7299 > >


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    Time: 05:10:19 PM PST US
    From: Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu>
    Subject: Elevator counterbalance issues..
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    Time: 05:21:02 PM PST US
    From: Steve Mullins <smullins@drury.edu>
    Subject: Elevator counterbalance issues..
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