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1. 01:43 PM - Elevator HELP! (Stein Bruch)
2. 02:35 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (C. Rabaut)
3. 03:01 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Tom and Marilyn Law)
4. 03:18 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (Jim Oke)
5. 08:21 PM - Re: Elevator HELP! (HCRV6@aol.com)
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"Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Hi Guys,
Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem...
Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for
the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates (center
one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!!
Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard
that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3
tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads.
Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of
dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another one
from scratch.
If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know!
Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that
doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it!
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6/N664SB 90+hrs
RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator HELP! |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Stein,
I'll mail you a couple of riv-nuts if you'd like, that should do the
trick.
Chuck
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Stein Bruch <stein@steinair.com>
Rv6-List <rv6-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV6-List: Elevator HELP!
> --> RV6-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem...
>
> Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for
> the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates
(center
> one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!!
>
> Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard
> that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3
> tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads.
> Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of
> dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another
one
> from scratch.
>
> If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know!
>
> Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that
> doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6/N664SB 90+hrs
> RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator HELP! |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Tom and Marilyn Law" <tlaw@klondiker.com>
Perhaps you could tap (using a good quality tap) out the nut plate and use
some loctite (thread locker) on the threads once the final position is
determined. Tom Law 6A-fuse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
<rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV6-List: Elevator HELP!
> --> RV6-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem...
>
> Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for
> the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates
(center
> one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!!
>
> Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard
> that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3
> tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads.
> Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of
> dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another
one
> from scratch.
>
> If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know!
>
> Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that
> doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6/N664SB 90+hrs
> RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator HELP! |
--> RV6-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Stein;
My suggestion - drill out the rivets holding the blind nut in place, open up
the root end skin a few inches, shake out the bad blind nut, thread some
safety wire through the hole in the spar, thread the wire out the root
opening, attach the blind nut to the end of the wire and pull the blind nut
inside the elevator. After suitable fiddling to get the blind nut into
position and use pop rivets to hold it in place. I guess you probably have
the leading edges curved and riveted already so these may have to be undone
as well. How about the trim cable opening for access ? (Or were you unlucky
enough to have this happen to your new right hand elevator ?)
Pop rivet strength should not be an issue, the rivets are surely just there
to hold the blind nut in place until the rod end threads are started.
How was your luck, is the bad nut at the inboard or outboard end? The blind
nuts are pretty small, so maybe drilling a 1/2 or so dia hole in the end rib
would let you get the new blind nut in place. Maybe you could glue it to the
end of a piece of dowel or similar to maneuver into place. Put a patch on
the rib if you are worried about strength - the tip fiberglass will cover it
up.
Sounds like an evenings fiddling to get a new blind nut in place. It would
be a shame to write off the material and labour in your elevator instead of
replacing a $0.25 blind nut!
Jim Oke
Wpg., MB
RV-6A (finishing touches at the hangar)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
<rv7-list@matronics.com>; "Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV6-List: Elevator HELP!
> --> RV6-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Looking for any GOOD suggestions. Here's the problem...
>
> Just finished my RV7 tail kit and was installing the rod end bearings for
> the right elevator, when to my surprise I found one of the nutplates
(center
> one on the right elevator) has NO threads in it!!
>
> Please don't tell me I should have checked them - I already heard
> that...from Van's! Who'd a thunk to check those things. After building 3
> tail kits, and 1 flying RV6, I've never seen a nutplate with no threads.
> Anyway, Van's is still searching for some other answer short of
> dissasembling the elevator. If that's the case I'll just build another
one
> from scratch.
>
> If you have any bright ideas, feel free to let me know!
>
> Just my typical luck, if there is one nutplate in every 2 million that
> doesn't get threaded, I'll end up with it!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6/N664SB 90+hrs
> RV7/N174SB Trying to finish the tail!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator HELP! |
--> RV6-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Stein: Before I built another elevator I'd at least try cutting some threads
in that nutplate. Seems to me that you might be able to run a tap not quite
all the way thru so as to retain the locking capability of the nutplate.
Might be worth a try.
Do not archive
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, starting firewall forward
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