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3. 09:20 AM - Re: FW: Fw: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. (Cy Galley)
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6. 02:33 PM - Re: FW: Fw: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. ()
7. 03:09 PM - Cell phones, static and fueling (Ron Lee)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
This is a HOAX or urban legend.
Go to http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
To set off gas vapor, there must be a spark. Since solid state switching
doesn't have any, this is physically impossible.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
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Subject: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> --> RV6-List message posted by: "john white" <jakeaire@msn.com>
>
>
> Create your own personal Web page with the info you use most, at My MSN.
> From: Gals22@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:55:51 EST
> Subject: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> To: tmallen@telepath.com, H20WITCH1@aol.com
>
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:19:12 -0600
> From: Mary Laughlin <MaryTheToothFairy@cox.net>
> To: BunnysBabyGirl@cox.net
> Subject: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
>
>
> The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
> which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.
>
> In the first case,the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
> fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
> pump.
> In the second, an individual hadsevere burns to their face when fumes
> ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
> And in the third,an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
> fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
> were fueling their car.
>
> You should know that:
> Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes
> Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
> enough energy to provide a spark for ignition
> Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
> lawn mowers, boat! , Etc.
> Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
> materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
> solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)
>
> To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling
> 1) Turn off engine
> 2) Don't smoke
> 3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
> 4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling
>
> Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
> try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
> at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.
> His results were very surprising:
> 1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
> 2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
> while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
> to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
> 3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
> 4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
> This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
> 5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
> 6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
> connected with static charges.
> 7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
> was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
> resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
> customer.
> 8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
> gas cap was removed and before! fueling began.
>
> Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
> with gas.
>
> If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
> make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
> ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
> discharged before you ever
> remove the nozzle.
>
> As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
> several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
> of this danger.You can find out more information by going
> tohttp://www.pei.org/ . Once here, click in the center of the screen
> where it says "Stop Static".
>
> I ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and
> friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while
> pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get
> the children out in time. Thanks for passing this along.
>
>
> The Shell Oil Company
> recently issued a warning after three incidents in which
> mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling
> operations.
>
>
> In the first case,the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid
> during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the
> gasoline pump.
>
> In the second, an individual hadsevere burns to their face when
> fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
>
> And in the third,an
> individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when
> the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling
> their car.
>
>
> You should know that:
>
> Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes
>
> Mobile phones that light up
> when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a
> spark for ignition
>
> Mobile phones should not be
> used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat! , Etc.
>
> Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
> materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
> solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)
>
>
> To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling
>
> 1) Turn off engine
>
> 2) Don't smoke
>
> 3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it
> off
>
> 4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling
>
>
> Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
> try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static
> electricity" at gas pumps. His company has researched 150
> cases of these fires.
>
> His results were very
> surprising:
>
> 1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
>
> 2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
> while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went
> back to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
>
> 3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
>
> 4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
> This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
>
> 5) Don't ever use cell phones
> when pumping gas
>
> 6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
> connected with static charges.
>
> 7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
> was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
> resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to
> the customer.
>
> 8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after
> the gas cap was removed and before! fueling began.
>
>
> Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while
> filling it with gas.
>
>
> If you absolutely HAVE to get
> in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close
> the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
> ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
> discharged before you ever
>
> remove the nozzle.
>
>
> As I mentioned earlier, The
> Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now,
> are really trying to make the public aware of this danger.You can find
> out more information by going tohttp://www.pei.org/ . Once here, click in
the
> center of the screen where it says "Stop Static".
>
>
> I
> ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and friends,
> especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas.
> If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the
> children out in time. Thanks for
> passing this along.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Cy,
This is - NO - joke at all! It's got nothing to do with the solid state switches
you mentioned, but rather STATIC Electricity.
It happened a couple of times here in the dry climate of the S.W., mainly on hot
& dry summer days. It is probably not as much of an issue in area's with high
humidity?
The one I remember best was even caught on TV: A young lady was talking on her
Cell, whilst opening her gas cap to fill up.
POOF said the magic dragon, and flames came out of the filler neck. A little static
spark from her petite little hand was all that was needed. (Unless of course
there was a little gremlin inside the gas tank, waiting for her to open the
lid, so it could set the vapors on fire with matches! But what are the chances
of that, after all the matches would be wet, now wouldn't they be?) And
NO, she was not smoking while talking.
You say it's physically impossible??? I don't think so!!!
I even make it a point ot leave my Cell inside the car while at the gas pump.
We never stop learning about the intricate mysteries of live, now do we?
P.S. This should not apply to Diesel drivers! So chit-chat away when you diesel-up.
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
This is a HOAX or urban legend.
Go to http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
To set off gas vapor, there must be a spark. Since solid state switching
doesn't have any, this is physically impossible.
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "john white" <jakeaire@msn.com>
<whitech@baxter.com>; <MepUpstairs@cs.com>; <jeanger@sympatico.ca>;
<michaelwhite@knology.net>; <britesprite@earthlink.net>;
<MEZEY@adelphia.net>; <ringsend@friend.ly.com>; <russjanice@msn.com>;
<rv6-list@matronics.com>; <tmb1564@aol.com>
Subject: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> --> RV6-List message posted by: "john white" <jakeaire@msn.com>
>
>
> Create your own personal Web page with the info you use most, at My MSN.
> From: Gals22@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:55:51 EST
> Subject: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> To: tmallen@telepath.com, H20WITCH1@aol.com
>
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:19:12 -0600
> From: Mary Laughlin <MaryTheToothFairy@cox.net>
> To: BunnysBabyGirl@cox.net
> Subject: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
>
>
> The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
> which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.
>
> In the first case,the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
> fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
> pump.
> In the second, an individual hadsevere burns to their face when fumes
> ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
> And in the third,an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
> fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
> were fueling their car.
>
> You should know that:
> Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes
> Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
> enough energy to provide a spark for ignition
> Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
> lawn mowers, boat! , Etc.
> Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
> materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
> solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)
>
> To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling
> 1) Turn off engine
> 2) Don't smoke
> 3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
> 4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling
>
> Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
> try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
> at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.
> His results were very surprising:
> 1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
> 2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
> while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
> to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
> 3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
> 4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
> This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
> 5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
> 6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
> connected with static charges.
> 7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
> was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
> resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
> customer.
> 8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
> gas cap was removed and before! fueling began.
>
> Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
> with gas.
>
> If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
> make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
> ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
> discharged before you ever
> remove the nozzle.
>
> As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
> several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
> of this danger.You can find out more information by going
> tohttp://www.pei.org/ . Once here, click in the center of the screen
> where it says "Stop Static".
>
> I ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and
> friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while
> pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get
> the children out in time. Thanks for passing this along.
>
>
> The Shell Oil Company
> recently issued a warning after three incidents in which
> mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling
> operations.
>
>
> In the first case,the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid
> during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the
> gasoline pump.
>
> In the second, an individual hadsevere burns to their face when
> fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
>
> And in the third,an
> individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when
> the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling
> their car.
>
>
> You should know that:
>
> Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes
>
> Mobile phones that light up
> when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a
> spark for ignition
>
> Mobile phones should not be
> used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat! , Etc.
>
> Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
> materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
> solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)
>
>
> To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling
>
> 1) Turn off engine
>
> 2) Don't smoke
>
> 3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it
> off
>
> 4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling
>
>
> Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
> try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static
> electricity" at gas pumps. His company has researched 150
> cases of these fires.
>
> His results were very
> surprising:
>
> 1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
>
> 2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
> while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went
> back to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
>
> 3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
>
> 4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
> This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
>
> 5) Don't ever use cell phones
> when pumping gas
>
> 6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
> connected with static charges.
>
> 7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
> was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
> resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to
> the customer.
>
> 8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after
> the gas cap was removed and before! fueling began.
>
>
> Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while
> filling it with gas.
>
>
> If you absolutely HAVE to get
> in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close
> the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
> ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
> discharged before you ever
>
> remove the nozzle.
>
>
> As I mentioned earlier, The
> Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now,
> are really trying to make the public aware of this danger.You can find
> out more information by going tohttp://www.pei.org/ . Once here, click in
the
> center of the screen where it says "Stop Static".
>
>
> I
> ask you to please send this information to ALL your family and friends,
> especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas.
> If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the
> children out in time. Thanks for
> passing this along.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
You are correct about static electricity. How would a cell phone create
that even if on? Why would turning it off stop static electricity?
Did you go to the snopes site?
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp Even the Petroleum
Equipment Institute which had the warning at one time has removed the cell
phone warning. Remember this important urgent message first appeared in
1999. If it had been true there would have been updates and many instances
of fires caused by cell phone use as cell phones use has dramatically
increased.
If you have any references about fueling fires set by cell phones being on
since 1999 please forward them so I can check them out. It is an urban
legend!
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> --> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> Cy,
> This is - NO - joke at all! It's got nothing to do with the solid state
switches you mentioned, but rather STATIC Electricity.
> It happened a couple of times here in the dry climate of the S.W., mainly
on hot & dry summer days. It is probably not as much of an issue in area's
with high humidity?
>
> The one I remember best was even caught on TV: A young lady was talking
on her Cell, whilst opening her gas cap to fill up.
> POOF said the magic dragon, and flames came out of the filler neck. A
little static spark from her petite little hand was all that was needed.
(Unless of course there was a little gremlin inside the gas tank, waiting
for her to open the lid, so it could set the vapors on fire with matches!
But what are the chances of that, after all the matches would be wet, now
wouldn't they be?) And NO, she was not smoking while talking.
>
> You say it's physically impossible??? I don't think so!!!
> I even make it a point ot leave my Cell inside the car while at the gas
pump.
>
> We never stop learning about the intricate mysteries of live, now do we?
>
> P.S. This should not apply to Diesel drivers! So chit-chat away when you
diesel-up.
>
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| Subject: | FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Phil Smith" <phil@analysis-inc.com>
Guys,
This has been researched thoroughly by my collegues in the forensic
consulting industry. The problem is static electricity after fueling the
vehicle. The explosion occurs when the person removes the gas nozzle and
goes to put the cap back on. The static electricity comes from the
person touching the car when the fumes are present. The window of
opportunity is very small as the proper gas/air mixture is only present
for a few seconds before the mixture becomes too lean as the fuel
evaporates off.
It has been found that this most often occurs with women drivers as they
tend to get back into the car during fueling instead of standing around
like most men and therefore have an opportunity to "recharge" with
static electricity as they enter and exit the car. The cell phone issue
is sensationalism by the news people and is not based on fact, only
coincidence.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cy Galley
Subject: Re: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
You are correct about static electricity. How would a cell phone create
that even if on? Why would turning it off stop static electricity?
Did you go to the snopes site?
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp Even the Petroleum
Equipment Institute which had the warning at one time has removed the
cell
phone warning. Remember this important urgent message first appeared in
1999. If it had been true there would have been updates and many
instances
of fires caused by cell phone use as cell phones use has dramatically
increased.
If you have any references about fueling fires set by cell phones being
on
since 1999 please forward them so I can check them out. It is an urban
legend!
Cy Galley
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
----- Original Message -----
From: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
> --> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> Cy,
> This is - NO - joke at all! It's got nothing to do with the solid
state
switches you mentioned, but rather STATIC Electricity.
> It happened a couple of times here in the dry climate of the S.W.,
mainly
on hot & dry summer days. It is probably not as much of an issue in
area's
with high humidity?
>
> The one I remember best was even caught on TV: A young lady was
talking
on her Cell, whilst opening her gas cap to fill up.
> POOF said the magic dragon, and flames came out of the filler neck. A
little static spark from her petite little hand was all that was needed.
(Unless of course there was a little gremlin inside the gas tank,
waiting
for her to open the lid, so it could set the vapors on fire with
matches!
But what are the chances of that, after all the matches would be wet,
now
wouldn't they be?) And NO, she was not smoking while talking.
>
> You say it's physically impossible??? I don't think so!!!
> I even make it a point ot leave my Cell inside the car while at the
gas
pump.
>
> We never stop learning about the intricate mysteries of live, now do
we?
>
> P.S. This should not apply to Diesel drivers! So chit-chat away when
you
diesel-up.
>
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
The static electricity issue has nothing to do cell phones. Nothing in
the operation of or possession of a cell phone can cause a static spark.
You can generate a spark by picking up a cell phone, if the phone is at
a different potential than you. If it was laying on the car when you
picked it up and a spark was generated, that probably means that simply
touching the car (with no cell phone present) would also have created a
spark.
Finally, gas does not ignite particularly easily, which is fortunate
because my car and my winter coat did not get along when I lived in the
Great Lakes region; I was always getting zapped when I touched my car.
The conditions inside your engine cylinders is rather specific - too
great or too little a fuel/air mixture and all the spark in the world
won't ignite it. Put a little gas in a tuna can and toss in a match;
chances are the match will go out (I am not endorsing this experiment,
but I've seen it done). Lower a match to the gas instead of tossing it
and it will ignite and burn like an oil lamp, not explosively.
I don't know what you saw on TV, but I am skeptical.
Patrick Kelley
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From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
klwerner@comcast.net
Subject: Re: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
--> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Cy,
This is - NO - joke at all! It's got nothing to do with the solid
state switches you mentioned, but rather STATIC Electricity.
It happened a couple of times here in the dry climate of the S.W.,
mainly on hot & dry summer days. It is probably not as much of an issue
in area's with high humidity?
The one I remember best was even caught on TV: A young lady was talking
on her Cell, whilst opening her gas cap to fill up.
POOF said the magic dragon, and flames came out of the filler neck. A
little static spark from her petite little hand was all that was needed.
(Unless of course there was a little gremlin inside the gas tank,
waiting for her to open the lid, so it could set the vapors on fire with
matches! But what are the chances of that, after all the matches would
be wet, now wouldn't they be?) And NO, she was not smoking while
talking.
You say it's physically impossible??? I don't think so!!!
I even make it a point ot leave my Cell inside the car while at the gas
pump.
We never stop learning about the intricate mysteries of live, now do we?
P.S. This should not apply to Diesel drivers! So chit-chat away when
you diesel-up.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious. |
--> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
I stand corrected about the Cell Phone causing the spark directly, and hereby apologize
to the list for all the idiot drivers that create static discharges of
any kind whilst on the gas pump. Practice proper grounding (one way or the other).
On a sidenote: Perhaps that Ladie's Cell-Phone rang, then her boyfriend dumped
her right there and then over the phone, which caused her to build up such
a rage inside her, that the now furiously steaming Chick caused the air surrounding
her to build up a static charge, which then created the spark that set
her car briefly on fire. They now call her "One HOT Babe". And please do not
archive this W.A.G.
Konrad
P.S. How did this static crap get on the RV6-List in the first place?
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Smith
To: rv6-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: RV6-List: FW: Fwd: This is not a Joke, It is very serious.
--> RV6-List message posted by: "Phil Smith" <phil@analysis-inc.com>
Guys,
This has been researched thoroughly by my collegues in the forensic
consulting industry. The problem is static electricity after fueling the
vehicle. The explosion occurs when the person removes the gas nozzle and
goes to put the cap back on. The static electricity comes from the
person touching the car when the fumes are present. The window of
opportunity is very small as the proper gas/air mixture is only present
for a few seconds before the mixture becomes too lean as the fuel
evaporates off.
It has been found that this most often occurs with women drivers as they
tend to get back into the car during fueling instead of standing around
like most men and therefore have an opportunity to "recharge" with
static electricity as they enter and exit the car. The cell phone issue
is sensationalism by the news people and is not based on fact, only
coincidence.
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| Subject: | Cell phones, static and fueling |
--> RV6-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>It has been found that this most often occurs with women drivers as they
>tend to get back into the car during fueling instead of standing around
>like most men and therefore have an opportunity to "recharge" with
>static electricity as they enter and exit the car. The cell phone issue
>is sensationalism by the news people and is not based on fact, only
>coincidence.
Or is it that women get in and out of a vehicle and usually have a cell
phone "glued" to their ear? (Gratuitous sexist comment)
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Cell phones, static and fueling |
--> RV6-List message posted by: <klwerner@comcast.net>
Ron,
You just wait until one cleaver person creates the first readily available Cell
Implant!
The thing to do would then be to "get a Cell Job done"!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee
To: rv6-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: RV6-List: Cell phones, static and fueling
--> RV6-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>It has been found that this most often occurs with women drivers as they
>tend to get back into the car during fueling instead of standing around
>like most men and therefore have an opportunity to "recharge" with
>static electricity as they enter and exit the car. The cell phone issue
>is sensationalism by the news people and is not based on fact, only
>coincidence.
Or is it that women get in and out of a vehicle and usually have a cell
phone "glued" to their ear? (Gratuitous sexist comment)
Ron Lee
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