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Wed 11/02/05


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 11:08 AM - Lasar Ignition Horror Story (Ronald Grover)
     2. 11:45 AM - Re: Lasar Ignition Horror Story (Michael \)
     3. 10:50 PM - Re: Re:RV6A Prop Select (HCRV6@comcast.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:08:53 AM PST US
    From: "Ronald Grover" <rv8grover@bwdmail.net>
    Subject: Lasar Ignition Horror Story
    --> RV6-List message posted by: "Ronald Grover" <rv8grover@bwdmail.net> Listers: If you own or are considering the Lasar Ignition System for your airplane, read this and beware. Lasar Ignition came on my new Lycoming Engine from the factory. A screw on the distributor cap backed out of my left magneto and it took 364 hours of working back and forth to destroy the magneto. Unisons service manual doesn't even have you look at the points until 500 hours. After sending him pictures of the Magneto, the Service Representative at Unison said that it was beyond the warranty period and couldn't possibility be a manufacturing defect and they wouldn't pay for anything. This all started with a 300+ mag drop on the Left Magneto. While looking for the cause of the Mag drop, I removed the ignition lead caps and found the left magneto distributor cap moving up and down. Danny King and I took the magneto apart and found that one of the screws on the distributor had backed out and had been working in the hole in the case. There was plastic, carbon, and aluminum dust all over in the magneto. Lessons learned: Unison doesn't stand behind their top of the line Ignition System. None of their dealers stock the 4771 magneto meaning minimum of 3 weeks to get one. The only way you can get one sooner is say A.O.G. and the distributor can have it drop shipped from the factory overnight for another $45. Aircraft Spruce had the lowest price of $601 plus $150 core charge. I have bought my last Unison Product. If anything else goes wrong with the Lasar system, I will remove it from the airplane and install P-Mags. A P-Mag system is less than half the cost of the Lasar system and being a new company, I'll bet you they would be very interested in a premature failure of one of their components. Ron Grover


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    Time: 11:45:56 AM PST US
    From: "Michael \"Skippy\" DaSilva" <mdasilva@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Lasar Ignition Horror Story
    --> RV6-List message posted by: "Michael \"Skippy\" DaSilva" <mdasilva@ameritech.net> Ron- I'm sorry to hear about your troubles at Unison. I worked for two different distributors of theirs and always had a good working relationship with them. Before they were bought by GE, Unison was owned by Mr. Fred Sontag. I took the liberty of forwarding your message to his son who I know personally. He still works in their Jacksonville facility. I have also checked with a couple of their full line distributors and there is availability of the 4771. I can get you a new one for $575.00 plus the $150.00 core charge immediately...no AOG fee. Let me know if I can help. Regards, Michael "Skippy" DaSilva -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald Grover Subject: RV6-List: Lasar Ignition Horror Story --> RV6-List message posted by: "Ronald Grover" <rv8grover@bwdmail.net> Listers: If you own or are considering the Lasar Ignition System for your airplane, read this and beware. Lasar Ignition came on my new Lycoming Engine from the factory. A screw on the distributor cap backed out of my left magneto and it took 364 hours of working back and forth to destroy the magneto. Unisons service manual doesn't even have you look at the points until 500 hours. After sending him pictures of the Magneto, the Service Representative at Unison said that it was beyond the warranty period and couldn't possibility be a manufacturing defect and they wouldn't pay for anything. This all started with a 300+ mag drop on the Left Magneto. While looking for the cause of the Mag drop, I removed the ignition lead caps and found the left magneto distributor cap moving up and down. Danny King and I took the magneto apart and found that one of the screws on the distributor had backed out and had been working in the hole in the case. There was plastic, carbon, and aluminum dust all over in the magneto. Lessons learned: Unison doesn't stand behind their top of the line Ignition System. None of their dealers stock the 4771 magneto meaning minimum of 3 weeks to get one. The only way you can get one sooner is say A.O.G. and the distributor can have it drop shipped from the factory overnight for another $45. Aircraft Spruce had the lowest price of $601 plus $150 core charge. I have bought my last Unison Product. If anything else goes wrong with the Lasar system, I will remove it from the airplane and install P-Mags. A P-Mag system is less than half the cost of the Lasar system and being a new company, I'll bet you they would be very interested in a premature failure of one of their components. Ron Grover


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    Time: 10:50:21 PM PST US
    From: HCRV6@comcast.net
    Subject: Re:RV6A Prop Select
    You will not be sorry. I have a Catto two blade on my O-360 powered RV-6 and to put it simply it is great. Very smooth, excellent acceleration and climb and cruise equal to (or better than) any of the constant speed RV's I have flown with. There are half a dozen or more RV's in this area with Catto props and no one who has one has anything but good to say about them. My only issue is that the two blade Catto is so light (about 13 pounds) that with minimum fuel I would have to limit baggage to about 70 pounds. I never plan for min fuel so this is a non issue for me. Just my $0.02 from a very satisfied Catto customer and fan. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 152 hours -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV6-List message posted by: Ron Lee > I am planning on converting my Aymar Demuth wood prop to a catto 3-blade. > > www.cattoprops.com > > Ron Lee > > > > > > > > > > You will not be sorry. I have a Catto two blade on my O-360 powered RV-6 and to put it simply it is great. Very smooth, excellent acceleration and climb and cruise equal to (or better than) any of the constant speed RV's I have flown with. There are half a dozen or more RV's in this area with Catto props and no one who has one has anything but good to say about them. My only issue is that the two bladeCatto is so light (about 13 pounds) that with minimum fuelI would have to limit baggageto about 70 pounds.I neverplan for min fuel so this is a non issuefor me. Just my $0.02 from a very satisfied Catto customer and fan. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 152 hours




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