RV6-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/18/06


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:06 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (Larry Rush)
     2. 07:37 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (Konrad L. Werner)
     3. 08:17 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (Dick Wildman)
     4. 08:56 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
     5. 09:13 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (Scott)
     6. 09:14 AM - Re: Oil temps?? ()
     7. 09:53 AM - Re: Fw: Aerobatics (MnwPeeps@aol.com)
     8. 09:57 AM - Re: Oil temps?? (D.Bristol)
     9. 02:05 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Mark Bellingrodt)
    10. 02:49 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Dick Wildman)
    11. 03:07 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Larry Rush)
    12. 03:12 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Larry Rush)
    13. 03:18 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Larry Rush)
    14. 03:20 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Larry Rush)
    15. 04:43 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Ron Lee)
    16. 05:41 PM - Re: Fw: Aerobatics (Tedd McHenry)
    17. 08:13 PM - Re: Oil temps?? (Konrad L. Werner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:06:43 AM PST US
    From: Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0- 360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just n eed a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not th e oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps ab out 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes m any 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in t he cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the sam e malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as w ell as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight an d I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "norma l" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 07:37:39 AM PST US
    From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Looks like your CHT's are right where they should be, if not very slightly on the cool side. Have you checked the calibration of you Oil Temp Sensor in boiling water? Is your Vernatherm operating correctly? Konrad ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0-360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just need a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not the oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: RV6-List: Oil temps?? I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps about 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes many 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in the cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the same malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as well as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight and I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "normal" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006


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    Time: 08:17:01 AM PST US
    From: "Dick Wildman" <dick@rclabs.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Hi; I had a similar problem and checked my temp sender in boiling water. It was reading 15 deg. high. Solved my problem. RW ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:02 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0-360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just need a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not the oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: RV6-List: Oil temps?? I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps about 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes many 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in the cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the same malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as well as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight and I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "normal" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 08:56:49 AM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    I have a S&W 8432-R mounted on the firewall of my RV6-A powered by an 0-360A1A and Hartzell Prop. My oil temperature over the weekend was 175 deg. at cruise and 190 on my initial clime to 5500. Our temperature here in Ohio was a hot,humid 92 degrees. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Wildman To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Hi; I had a similar problem and checked my temp sender in boiling water. It was reading 15 deg. high. Solved my problem. RW ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:02 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0-360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just need a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not the oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: RV6-List: Oil temps?? I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps about 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes many 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in the cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the same malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as well as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight and I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "normal" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 09:13:02 AM PST US
    From: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net>
    Subject: Oil temps??
    --> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> My RV6a flies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between 150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gear fairing doesn't seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a small plate over a portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itself out each flight. Scott RV6A 550 hours (200 by me)


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    Time: 09:14:31 AM PST US
    From: <kbob@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    --> RV6-List message posted by: <kbob@cox.net> The difference may be that I'm running an O-320 with 9.2:1 CR and EMag. The O-320 is normally a lot cooler on the oil than the 360. ---- Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0-360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' > My CHT's are about 325F......... > Larry > > "LIMA TANGO SENDS" > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM > > > You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... > How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just need a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not the oil. > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM > > > I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps about 220F on 90 days.. > I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes many 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in the cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the same malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as well as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight and I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "normal" temps I would appreciate feedback also. > > Thanks fellas, > Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 > > "LIMA TANGO SENDS" > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 09:53:55 AM PST US
    From: MnwPeeps@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Aerobatics
    In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:14:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tedd@vansairforce.org writes: Van's does indeed recommend "no recreational spins" for the -6, but that doesn't mean "no spins." Van's specifically recommends that you spin test your -6 if you're going to do aerobatics, which it sounds like you plan to do. Since aeros could lead to an inadvertent spin I think that's sound advice, and they put some guidelines in the plans for doing it. Thx for the reply - but questions remain. First - by the bye - I've been doing acro in, first, my Navy SNJ throughout the 60s, and, more recently, for six years in my Yak-52. Never once got into an unintentional spin, but then I've never done very sophisticated maneuvers, such as what one sees at an airshow. So....not much likelihood of that. But, anyway... It seems to me that an airframe would be either suitably constructed to accept spins, or it would not be. If Vans says you can test spin, then why not a recreational spin? Same maneuver. More impotantly, though, is my question as to snap rolls and hammerheads. Doing just rolls and loops (and Cuban 8s, etc.) gets a tad dull after a while. I guess I can get an answer from Vans, if nobody else responds with an answer based on their experience. Enjoy - Mike


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    Time: 09:57:44 AM PST US
    From: "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    The same warning applies to low temps as well as high temps. The sender may be bad. So if you cover the oil cooler without first checking the sender, you may have high oil temps and not know it. It's not that much trouble to check and I'd recommend that everyone check it at least once. Dave B. -6 So Cal EAA Technical Counselor Scott wrote: >--> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> > >My RV6a flies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between >150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gear fairing doesn't >seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as >well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much >difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a small plate over a >portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 >degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itself out each >flight. > >Scott >RV6A 550 hours (200 by me) > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:05:43 PM PST US
    From: Mark Bellingrodt <beech19pilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    How would you recomend checking the sender. Mark "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net> wrote: The same warning applies to low temps as well as high temps. The sender may be bad. So if you cover the oil cooler without first checking the sender, you may have high oil temps and not know it. It's not that much trouble to check and I'd recommend that everyone check it at least once. Dave B. -6 So Cal EAA Technical Counselor Scott wrote: --> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> My RV6a flies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between 150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gear fairing doesn't seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a small plate over a portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itself out each flight. Scott RV6A 550 hours (200 by me) --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 02:49:02 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Wildman" <dick@rclabs.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Checked mine by: 1.) Remove the sender from the engine. 2.) Boil some water. I then poured the hot water into a tin can. 3.) Checked the temp of the hot water with a thermometer, I used one from the kitchen. I think they are called candy thermometers. 4) Put the probe in the hot water and have someone read the temp on the oil temp gage and compare it with the candy thermometer. They should be the same. Using this method you can watch both temps drop as the water cools. The downside to this is that at sea level the best you can check is around 212 deg. But if your off by 15 deg as I was that will tell you a lot. RW ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Bellingrodt To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? How would you recomend checking the sender. Mark "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net> wrote: The same warning applies to low temps as well as high temps. The sender may be bad. So if you cover the oil cooler without first checking the sender, you may have high oil temps and not know it. It's not that much trouble to check and I'd recommend that everyone check it at least once. Dave B. -6 So Cal EAA Technical Counselor Scott wrote: --> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> My RV6a flies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between 150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gear fairing doesn't seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a small plate over a portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itself out each flight. Scott RV6A 550 hours (200 by me) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 03:07:11 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    First guy I have heard from who has "low" temps. Have you checked your sender in boiling water? Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:11:34 PM --> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> My RV6a flies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between 150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gear fairing doesn't seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a small plate over a portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itself out each flight. Scott RV6A 550 hours (200 by me)


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    Time: 03:12:33 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    How do you recemend checking the varitherm? Boiling water again? Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:35:55 AM Looks like your CHT's are right where they should be, if not very slightly on the cool side. Have you checked the calibration of you Oil Temp Sensor i n boiling water? Is your Vernatherm operating correctly? Konrad ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:02 AM Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0- 360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just n eed a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not th e oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps ab out 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes m any 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in t he cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the sam e malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as w ell as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight an d I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "norma l" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 03:18:12 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    I have endured this for far too long and am about this close (2 fingers abo ut 1/4" apart) to investing in a nine tube cooler, if I can squeeze it in. Aero Classic has one I think will fit.(like 3/4" wider). Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nose gear cluster. This should smooth the hot exi t airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just n eed a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not th e oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps ab out 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes m any 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in t he cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the sam e malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as w ell as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight an d I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "norma l" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006


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    Time: 03:20:47 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rush <k9hxt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Put it in boiling water. I used one of the coffee cup heaters in a large c offee cup. Got 212=C2=B0F on the gage. Larry,N939LT RV-6A hot oil "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:03:41 PM How would you recomend checking the sender. Mark "D.Bristol" <dbris200@sbcglobal.net> wrote: The same warning applies to low temps as well as high temps. The sender may be bad. So if you cover the oil cooler without first checking the sender, you may have high oil temps and not know it. It's not that much trouble to check and I'd recommend that everyone check i t at least once. Dave B. -6 So Cal EAA Technical Counselor Scott wrote: --> RV6-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott@randolphs.net> My RV6a fl ies with low oil temps, if anything. They seem to hover between 150 and 170 all the time. Configuration of the nose gea r fairing doesn't seem to have much affect, if any, as I've flown it with a bar nose leg, as well was with the full leg and intersection fairing and not seen much difference. I've actually been contemplating putting a sma ll plate over a portion of my oil cooler to bring the average temperature up 20 or 30 degrees to ensure the oil is getting hot enough to clean itsel f out each flight. Scott RV6A 550 hours (200 by me) How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 04:43:25 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    --> RV6-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> At 04:17 PM 7/18/2006, you wrote: >I have endured this for far too long and am about this close (2 fingers >about 1/4" apart) to investing in a nine tube cooler, if I can squeeze it >in. Aero Classic has one I think will fit.(like 3/4" wider). >Larry > You must not have read my posts about improving exit air flow. Lowered my oil temps substantially by opening the lower cowl and adding louvers http://home.pcisys.net/~ronlee/RV6A/Cowl_Louver_Small.jpg Ron Lee


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    Time: 05:41:56 PM PST US
    From: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Aerobatics
    --> RV6-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> Mike: > It seems to me that an airframe would be either suitably constructed to > accept spins, or it would not be. If Vans says you can test spin, then why > not a recreational spin? Same maneuver. No, it's not a binary choice. Each airframe has a degree of resistance to entering a spin and a degree of difficulty in recovering (which also vary according to loading and other parameters). Van said, "We recognized that most RV-6 pilots would probably not have an extensive aerobatic background, and could be challenged by recovering from fully developed spins." Hence, no "recreational" spins. However, a pilot who expects to do aerobatics in the airplane certainly can, and should, spin test it. > More impotantly, though, is my question as to snap rolls and hammerheads. Having snapped rolled a -4, and considering Van's comments on the -6's spin resistance characteristics (which he says are good), I don't see any problem snap-rolling a -6. I haven't done a hammerhead in either, though. Have you read Van's Service Bulletin 02-6-1? It discusses the subject at some length. Money quote about the -6: "In other words, a conscious effort was needed to cause intentional spins, so accidental spins were deemed improbable during normal flight operations, including sport aerobatics." Tedd McHenry Surrey, BC, Canada


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    Time: 08:13:44 PM PST US
    From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil temps??
    Larry, I'd rather do it in very warm oil, just make sure it does not get hot enough to catch fire (i.e. put the pot of oil within a pot of boiling water). Just don't like mechanical things in the oilsystem to be immersed in water, that's all. Take a good thermometer and verify opening and closing temps. I am no A&P, so please get yourself a second opinion! ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? How do you recemend checking the varitherm? Boiling water again? Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:35:55 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Looks like your CHT's are right where they should be, if not very slightly on the cool side. Have you checked the calibration of you Oil Temp Sensor in boiling water? Is your Vernatherm operating correctly? Konrad ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? Thanks for reply..............I am using the 7 tube cooler Van's sells and it is mounted on the left rear baffle. This is what Van's suggests for a 0-360. Surely I am not the only guy with this "challenge?' My CHT's are about 325=C2=B0F......... Larry "LIMA TANGO SENDS" ----- Original Message ---- From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:29:09 AM Subject: Re: RV6-List: Oil temps?? You may consider building an exit ramp inside the cowling that looks like a fairing around the whole nosegear cluster. This should smooth the hot exit airflow quite a bit... How are you CHT's doing when the oil is at 220 degrees? Perhaps you just need a better oil-cooler arrangement if all else is in the green, but not the oil. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Rush To: rv6-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: RV6-List: Oil temps?? I'm flying a RV-6A I built a few years ago and have always had oil temps about 220=C2=B0F on 90=C2=B0 days.. I am wondering what the difference is between the RV-6 and 6A that causes many 6A's to have elevated oil temps. Besides the nose wheel structure in the cowling air exit that is. If you have a tri gear and experience the same malady, do you have the intersection fairing between the nose wheel strut and the lower cowl?? I do not as of now. My baffles are sealed about as well as I can get them also. That is a high pressure area during flight and I wonder if enough air is leaking into the cowl to raise the pressure in the lower section, i.e. less flow. If you have the fairing and have "normal" temps I would appreciate feedback also. Thanks fellas, Larry , RV-6A N939LT at 2R2 "LIMA TANGO SENDS" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Date: 7/14/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/17/2006




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