---------------------------------------------------------- RV6-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/19/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:20 PM - Re: Leaking tank (Balone Marine) 2. 03:51 PM - Re: Leaking tank (Robert Murillo) 3. 03:52 PM - Re: Leaking tank (Robert Murillo) 4. 03:52 PM - Re: Leaking (Robert Murillo) 5. 07:40 PM - Re: Leaking tank (Roger Edwards) 6. 07:40 PM - Re: Leaking (Roger Edwards) 7. 07:41 PM - Re: Leaking tank (Steven Eberhart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:31 PM PST US From: Balone Marine Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same question. Bud --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > Neal: > > is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the > rivet line . > > thanks > > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > wrote: > > > From: Neal George > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > Bert > > Where is it > leaking? > At a > rivet? > Along a baffle > seam? > > neal > > > From: > owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Murillo > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > that does > > not work. > > > > Need the best way of doing this, and > of course, if possible the easiest... > > > > Is a pain removing all thos > bolts.. > > > > Thanks for sugestions, > > > > Bert > > ______________________________________ > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:59 PM PST US From: Robert Murillo Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank Thanks=C2- Bud: =C2- But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO HEAR S OLUTIONS =C2- how do you seal so lthere is no leaks? =C2- thanks =C2- robert --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Balone Marine wrote: From: Balone Marine Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a pain.Every time Irun i nto a prblem I asked the same question. Bud --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > Neal: > =C2- > is on the Inboard,=C2- (fuselage) side, along the > rivet line . > =C2- > thanks > =C2- > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > wrote: > > > From: Neal George > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > Bert =93 > > Where is it > leaking? > At a > rivet? > Along a baffle > seam? > =C2- > neal > =C2- > > From: > owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Robert Murillo > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > =C2- > > > > > > Hi: > > =C2- > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > leaking,=C2- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > that does > > not work. > > =C2- > > Need the best way of doing this, and > of course, if possible the easiest... > > =C2- > > Is a pain removing all thos > bolts.. > > =C2- > > Thanks for sugestions, > > =C2- > > Bert > > ______________________________________ =C2- > =C2-http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution >=C2- =C2- > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > =C2- =C2- =C2- S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:13 PM PST US From: Robert Murillo Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank Tom: - Could you find the name of the product you are talking about.. - I will give it a try of course.. - thanks for the help - robert do not archive --- On Thu, 9/17/09, MnwPeeps@aol.com wrote: From: MnwPeeps@aol.com Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank My tank was leaking just through the leading edge rivets. My mech put on, v ery tightly, a sort-of plastic tape substance (with no air bubbles) - three years ago and I've had no leaks since. Will get the name of the stuff if y ou want it, but it looks like-very basic stuff. If your actual tank is le aking elsewhere then I suppose (sort of obvious) this won't work for you wi thout taking all the bolts out, anyway. ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- --------- Tom - In a message dated 9/16/2009 5:04:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, robertrv09 @yahoo.com writes: Hi: - My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking,- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. - Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... - Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. - Thanks for sugestions, - Bert ______________________________________ ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV6-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:29 PM PST US From: Robert Murillo Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking Thanks I will look into robert --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jeff Orear wrote: From: Jeff Orear Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking Hi Bert: If I recall correctly, there is a technique where you use a Loctite product (the name escapes me) that is green in color where you put a dab of it in the area of the leak and then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. -T he sealer gets sucked into the leak.- Do a search in the archives and you should be able to find the specific Loc tite product to use. Regards, Jeff Orear RV6A -N782P Peshtigo, WI On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Robert Murillo wrote: Hi: - My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking,- I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , that does not work. - Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if possible the easiest... - Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. - Thanks for sugestions, - Bert ______________________________________ href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?RV6-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:52 PM PST US From: Roger Edwards Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank Check the fuel sender plate first. these tend to leak and are easy to reseal without removing the tank. If your leak is showing at the fuselage wing intersection. --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Balone Marine wrote: > From: Balone Marine > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 5:06 PM > Balone Marine > > what is your life worth,do the bolts, I know it is a > pain.Every time Irun into a prblem I asked the same > question. > Bud > --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Robert Murillo > wrote: > > > From: Robert Murillo > > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > > Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:14 AM > > Neal: > > > > is on the Inboard, (fuselage) side, along the > > rivet line . > > > > thanks > > > > robert > > > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Neal George > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Neal George > > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bert > > > > Where is it > > leaking? > > At a > > rivet? > > Along a baffle > > seam? > > > > neal > > > > > > From: > > owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of > > Robert Murillo > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM > > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV6-List: Leaking tank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > > > My right tank, on my rv6a is > > leaking, I tried puting Pro seal on the out side , > > that does > > > > not work. > > > > > > > > Need the best way of doing this, and > > of course, if possible the easiest... > > > > > > > > Is a pain removing all thos > > bolts.. > > > > > > > > Thanks for sugestions, > > > > > > > > Bert > > > > ______________________________________ > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > =nofollow > > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:54 PM PST US From: Roger Edwards Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking Yes, I used to use that on my Mooney and it works good on weeps but not running leaks. Not sure it's from Loctite though. Aircraft Spruce? --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Robert Murillo wrote: > From: Robert Murillo > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 6:49 PM > Thanks I will look into > robert > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jeff Orear > wrote: > > > From: Jeff Orear > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:17 PM > > > Hi Bert: > > > If I recall correctly, there is a technique where you > use a Loctite product (the name escapes me) that is green in > color where you put a dab of it in the area of the leak and > then apply suction to the tank with a vacuum. The > sealer gets sucked into the leak. > > > Do a search in the archives and you should be able to > find the specific Loctite product to use. > > > Regards, > > > > > Jeff Orear > RV6A N782P > Peshtigo, WI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Robert Murillo > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi: > > My right tank, on my rv6a is leaking, I tried > puting Pro seal on the out side , that does > not work. > > Need the best way of doing this, and of course, if > possible the easiest... > > Is a pain removing all thos bolts.. > > Thanks for sugestions, > > Bert > ______________________________________ > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > =nofollow > target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:20 PM PST US From: Steven Eberhart Subject: Re: RV6-List: Leaking tank Robert Murillo wrote: > > Thanks Bud: > > But the questions I have is, how do you fix the problem,,, I wANT TO > HEAR SOLUTIONS > > how do you seal so lthere is no leaks? > > thanks > > robert > I just fixed mine and was successful in stopping 12 rivets from weeping and/or leaking on the right tank of my RV-7A. I spent far more time trying to come up with an easy fix than it took to fix it once I finally gave up and removed the tank. My procedure was: 1. Order the MK 319 BS Monel pulled rivets from Wicks. 2. Use the extra tank end cover, that Van's sends for the sender you didn't use, as template and cut an access opening in the rear baffle, drill mounting holes and install nut plates. 3. Make a new cover from .040 aluminum. 4. Drill out the leaking rivets. 5. Vacuum out the drill shavings from drilling out the rivets. 6. Mix up Proseal and cover the drilled out rivet holes both inside and outside. 7. Put in the pulled pop rivets. 8. On the inside of the tank, using an acid brush, smear the Proseal liberally over and around the new rivets. 9. Smear Proseal liberally around the sealing surface of the new access cover and over all of the screw holes. 10. Screw the access cover on and set aside for several days while the Proseal cures. 11. Don't worry about the Proseal that you liberally smeared on the outside over the new rivets. 12. After the Proseal has cured, use a single edge razor blade to remove most of the excess Proseal on the outside. Remove the rest with a vibrating sander with 180 grit open coat (grey) sandpaper. 13. I went ahead and re-painted the tank and re-installed it on my plane. 14. You will notice I didn't leak test the tank after the fix. I think my original leak testing was part of the problem. I had already decided that "it is what it is." If it still leaked it was just going to have to leak until Spring. The whole process including the curing of the Proseal took three days. The fix was done in just a few hours. Quit trying to come up with a quick cure and do it right. 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