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Sun 05/12/13


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 06:12 AM - Re: Maximum Take-Off Weight (George Nielsen)
     2. 02:42 PM - Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/09/13 (bert)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:12:36 AM PST US
    From: George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org>
    Subject: Re: Maximum Take-Off Weight
    Thanks to all of you for your interesting replies. It is my feeling that a maximum take-off weight of 1650 lbs is on the "low side" for my RV-6 because even when taking off and flying at this weight it performs like a hot rod, so to say. Therefore I am under the impression that one can take off heavier. George Nielsen RV-6 PH-XGN The Hague, the Netherlands > Time: 11:19:21 AM PST US > From: MnwPeeps@aol.com > Subject: Re: RV6-List: Maximum Take-Off Weight > > Hi - A six owner for eight years. > > My thought is, barring your qual as an aeronautical engineer, what makes > you "feel" the good old number of 1650 is on the low side? > > What you could do: take it to a very long runway (Air Force base. etc.), > deliberately overload it by a couple hundred pounds (on a standard temp day) > and see if the sucker is off by Vr and attains a safe climb. > > I had one experience...a slightly overweight guy as my pax (about 405 lbs > combined), mostly full tanks, plenty of runway, above-average warm summer > day (maybe 75 to 80. We took-off fine, but then we were unable to attain even > > close to a normal and safe rate of climb (with large pines at the > departure end ahead of us. I almost went in my pants. Pushed over just a tad for > a > few more knots, which gave us enough of an improvement in climb to just > barely clear the pines. My memory is that we did not exceed MTOW by very much. > > > I learned my lesson big-time that day, and have been sensitive to T/O > weight, including other factors, ever since. If you went to a runway such as > Bangor, you could do all that, not climb much and still have plenty of room to > > safely land and stop - about 14,000 feet. You'll know right away if the > climb rate is not up to snuff. > Edwards would be even better, but, well...you know. > > > Question for you - and any other readers with a six. I've spent a long time > getting mixed messages about > acceptable aerobatics in this plane. Some say safe, others say not so safe. > I'm thinking, specifically, of > snap-rolls and hammerheads. Vans put out a bulletin years ago saying not > to deliberately spin. Then guys tell me they spin without a second thought. > So - would love to get the straight poop and also control movements - esp. > for the hammerhead, which varies plane to plane. In my Yak-52, you kicked > full right rudder - going straight-up at max power - about ten knots below > stall, simultaniously you went full left aileron and then full forward > rudder. The Yak would smoothly roll around its right wing tip > (wing-over-style)and, as the nose began to fall though, the a/c did a very comfortabe > > half-roll to the left, and then transitioned to straight down. A sweet maneuver > > that always impressed the young lovely in your passenger seat. > > But what about the RV-6? > Thx for any tips on > this - Mike > > > In a message dated 5/11/2013 3:14:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > genie@swissmail.org writes: > > --> RV6-List message posted by: George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org> > > In the user manual of my 160 HP O-320 powered RV-6 I have stated that > the MTOW is 1650 lbs. This seems on the low side to me. How high can I > reasonably state the MTOW of my RV-6 in the handbook? How much can such > an aircraft weigh to enable take-off at sea level in a safe manner? > > Thanks. > > George Nielsen > RV-6 PH-XGN > The Hague, the Netherlands > >


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    Time: 02:42:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/09/13
    From: bert <bertrv6@gmail.com>
    Appreciate info as to the protocol to place and ad/ on the rv-6 list. thanks robert On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:01 AM, RV6-List Digest Server < rv6-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV6-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RV6-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-05-09&Archive=RV6 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-05-09&Archive=RV6 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RV6-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 05/09/13: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > >




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