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| Subject:  | Marginal Battery Charge when Starting | 
      
      
      When starting my RV-6 it feels that the charge of my battery is 
      marginal. It does start but the electric motor or battery feel 
      reluctant, as if they will not grant me many attempts and can barely 
      start the engine. I keep the battery charged when my aircraft is parked 
      in the hangar, and the tension in the voltmeter shows around 13V when 
      the engine is not running. Could there be a problem with the battery and 
      is it safe to fly under such circumstances? Thanks.
      
      George Nielsen
      RV-6 PH-XGN
      The Hague, the Netherlands
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Marginal Battery Charge when Starting | 
      
      
      On 4/14/2014 12:55 PM, George Nielsen wrote:
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      > When starting my RV-6 it feels that the charge of my battery is 
      > marginal. It does start but the electric motor or battery feel 
      > reluctant, as if they will not grant me many attempts and can barely 
      > start the engine. I keep the battery charged when my aircraft is 
      > parked in the hangar, and the tension in the voltmeter shows around 
      > 13V when the engine is not running. Could there be a problem with the 
      > battery and is it safe to fly under such circumstances? Thanks.
      >
      > George Nielsen
      > RV-6 PH-XGN
      > The Hague, the Netherlands
      Is it a basically 'stock' Lyc with carburetor & magnetos? If so, the 
      only danger to continued flight would be loss of the engine driven fuel 
      pump, in which case you'd need battery or alternator power to run the 
      electric backup fuel pump. Now, how your air traffic control would feel 
      about you losing radio contact might be another issue. :-) Here in the 
      USA, in most parts of the country that wouldn't be a major problem; I 
      live about 15 miles from a Class C airport, and almost never talk to 
      them while flying from my home airport community strip.
      
      The easiest 1st test is to get some help to hold your volt meter probes 
      directly on the + & - terminals of the battery (directly on the posts, 
      *not* on the clamps that attach the battery cables to the battery posts).
      
      Leave the mags off & fuel to idle cutoff to prevent starting, and crank 
      the engine for a few seconds, observing the voltmeter while cranking. If 
      voltage doesn't drop below around 8-9 volts at at the battery, it's 
      probably good. If the voltage stays up at around 10-12 volts, you 
      probably have a problem (higher than normal resistance) somewhere in the 
      wiring between the battery & starter. It can be anywhere in the path: 
      either battery terminal to clamp, clamp to wire, wire to terminal at 
      master solenoid, etc. Don't forget the return path: starter frame to 
      engine, engine ground terminal to wire, and back to battery negative. 
      You can actually find the problem point with the voltmeter while 
      cranking, but it requires moving the probes to the various points 
      mentioned, while the engine is cranking (not many people are willing to 
      be that close to the prop while the engine is moving, even if only 
      cranking).
      
      Here in the USA, almost any automotive parts house that sells batteries 
      will 'load test' the battery using a load that simulates a starter load. 
      That would let you know whether the battery really is dying.
      
      If the battery load-tests as good, and starting voltage (on the battery 
      terminals) is dropping below about 8 volts, the starter might be going 
      bad (shorted windings in the starter, or mechanical issues like binding 
      gears or bearings).
      
      Hope that helps,
      
      Charlie
      
      
 
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