RV6-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/10/14


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 10:18 AM - Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (George Nielsen)
     2. 10:27 AM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (Ralph E. Capen)
     3. 11:55 AM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (HCRV6@comcast.net)
     4. 10:07 PM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (THOMAS LAW)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:18:51 AM PST US
    From: George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org>
    Subject: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320
    For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first go the engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power from the starter motor. After repeated attempts things would progressively improve until there was enough power to start the engine. Since the end of last month the starter motor has simply not been able to provide enough power to start my engine. I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when exposed to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem. Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK. However, later it appeared that the battery could not provide enough tension. I removed it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at present. I reckon that the battery is, if not the only problem, then one of the problems. A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is with the relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially had problems in starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could this in your opinion be the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I find a replacement relay, which companies make suitable relays and what their part numbers are? As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the hangar it is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this battery the optimal choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A? Do you know whether any other batteries would be just as good or better? I have found sources for such a battery. Thanks. George Nielsen RV-6 PH-XGN The Hague, the Netherlands P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please excuse me if you receive the same message twice.


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    Time: 10:27:15 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320
    I have the same battery in my IO360B1F6 powered RV6A with a firewall mounted relay. Make sure you have a good ground strap from the engine and a good ground cable to the battery from the strap. Make sure that as few items as possible are drawing electricity when you try to start. -----Original Message----- >From: George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org> >Sent: Jun 10, 2014 1:18 PM >To: rv6-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV6-List: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 > > >For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first >go the engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power >from the starter motor. After repeated attempts things would >progressively improve until there was enough power to start the engine. >Since the end of last month the starter motor has simply not been able >to provide enough power to start my engine. > >I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when >exposed to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem. > >Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK. >However, later it appeared that the battery could not provide enough >tension. I removed it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at >present. I reckon that the battery is, if not the only problem, then one >of the problems. > >A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is >with the relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially >had problems in starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could >this in your opinion be the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I >find a replacement relay, which companies make suitable relays and what >their part numbers are? > >As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the >hangar it is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this >battery the optimal choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A? >Do you know whether any other batteries would be just as good or better? >I have found sources for such a battery. > >Thanks. > >George Nielsen >RV-6 PH-XGN >The Hague, the Netherlands > >P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please >excuse me if you receive the same message twice. > >


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    Time: 11:55:36 AM PST US
    From: HCRV6@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320
    I have the same battery in my RV-6 with O-360 and have no problems starting in warm weather. In cold weather I keep the battery on trickle charge and use pre heat when it is really cold (by Cailifornia standards). I suspect that you have a poor ground (power return) somewhere between the starter and battery. Harry Crosby ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Nielsen" <genie@swissmail.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:18:19 AM Subject: RV6-List: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first go the engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power from the starter motor. After repeated attempts things would progressively improve until there was enough power to start the engine. Since the end of last month the starter motor has simply not been able to provide enough power to start my engine. I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when exposed to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem. Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK. However, later it appeared that the battery could not provide enough tension. I removed it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at present. I reckon that the battery is, if not the only problem, then one of the problems. A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is with the relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially had problems in starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could this in your opinion be the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I find a replacement relay, which companies make suitable relays and what their part numbers are? As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the hangar it is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this battery the optimal choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A? Do you know whether any other batteries would be just as good or better? I have found sources for such a battery. Thanks. George Nielsen RV-6 PH-XGN The Hague, the Netherlands P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please excuse me if you receive the same message twice.


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    Time: 10:07:48 PM PST US
    From: THOMAS LAW <tlaw@northwestel.net>
    Subject: Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320
    I also have the same battery in my RV-6A with an 0-320 Lycoming........... working fine for 9 years. Has a voltage drop check been done? Connect a volt meter from the battery positive to the starter positive and watch while cranking...... there should not be much more than 1/2 to 3/4 volt and if much more move the meter connection to determine exactly where the excessive loss is...... in the relay or another connection. Then do the same with the grounded side... from the Battery negative to the starter body. There should be less loss on the grounded side as there is no relay. Use an analogue volt meter to get a better reading. Tom Law ----- Original Message ----- From: HCRV6@comcast.net Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:00 pm Subject: Re: RV6-List: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 To: rv6-list@matronics.com > I have the same battery in my RV-6 with O-360 and have no problems starting in warm weather. In cold weather I keep the battery on trickle charge and use > pre heat when it is really cold (by Cailifornia standards). I suspect that you have a poor ground (power return) somewhere between the starter and battery. > > Harry Crosby > ----------------------------------------------------------- > From: "George Nielsen" <genie@swissmail.org> > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:18:19 AM > Subject: RV6-List: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 > > > For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first > go the engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power > from the starter motor. After repeated attempts things would > progressively improve until there was enough power to start the engine. > Since the end of last month the starter motor has simply not been able > to provide enough power to start my engine. > > I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when > exposed to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem. > > Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK. > However, later it appeared that the battery could not provide enough > tension. I removed it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at > present. I reckon that the battery is, if not the only problem, then one > of the problems. > > A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is > with the relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially > had problems in starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could > this in your opinion be the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I > find a replacement relay, which companies make suitable relays and what > their part numbers are? > > As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the > hangar it is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this > battery the optimal choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A? > Do you know whether any other batteries would be just as good or better? > I have found sources for such a battery. > > Thanks. > > George Nielsen > RV-6 PH-XGN > The Hague, the Netherlands > > P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please > excuse me if you receive the same m= - List Contribution Web Site ; &nb===================== > > > >




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