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Fri 08/14/15


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:33 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (Ralph E. Capen)
     2. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk))
     3. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (FLYaDIVE)
     4. 06:53 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk))
     5. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (FLYaDIVE)
     6. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy (Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk))
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:33:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
    I had 190 hours when I replaced the nosegear brackets and balanced the nosewheel pant. I have about 260 on it now....another couple hundred will tell the tale - I think that's what you were really asking..... -----Original Message----- >From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:51 AM >To: "'rv6-list@matronics.com'" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > >Can I ask how many hours you had before you noticed the cracks and how many since your repair? > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen >Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:40 AM >To: rv6-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > >I did mine at the axle shaft as I was finding my brackets cracked both fore and aft of the axle..... > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:27 AM >>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >> >>--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >> >>So where is the balance point. At the axle shaft? I'm just trying to >>understand the logic >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. >>Capen >>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:04 AM >>To: rv6-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >> >>--> <recapen@earthlink.net> >> >> >>No requirement listed in the plans. I am using a SamJames mainwheel pant as a nosewheel pant since I am also using a larger tire and fork up front. >>I operate primarily from a grass strip which is not as good as it could be. >> >>I found that my nosewheel pant brackets were cracked - along with experiencing wheel shimmy. >> >>Research in the archives showed others that had balanced their wheelpants fore and aft. >> >>After balancing the nosewheel pant - both the shimmy and bracket cracking have gone...knock wood.... >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Allen Checca <allen@checca.net> >>>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 10:50 AM >>>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >>> >>> >>>Where in the plans does it say that is necessary? >>> >>>Rv 6a 1050 hrs. >>> >>>Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:49 AM, djtoddb <djtoddb@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you balance the the nose wheel Pant??? Fore and aft of the nose wheel "axel" or from some other reference point?? >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Titan Tornado II with Jab 3300 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445877#445877 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:36:47 AM PST US
    From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
    Yea. I have some wheel shimmy in my six. But I hadnt checked the stiffness of the nose wheel fork. I will do that at the earliest convenience. When I land I always pull the stick back in my gut and negates most if not all of it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:33 AM Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy I had 190 hours when I replaced the nosegear brackets and balanced the nosewheel pant. I have about 260 on it now....another couple hundred will tell the tale - I think that's what you were really asking..... -----Original Message----- >From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:51 AM >To: "'rv6-list@matronics.com'" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > >Can I ask how many hours you had before you noticed the cracks and how many since your repair? > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. >Capen >Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:40 AM >To: rv6-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >--> <recapen@earthlink.net> > >I did mine at the axle shaft as I was finding my brackets cracked both fore and aft of the axle..... > > >-----Original Message----- >>From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:27 AM >>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >> >>--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> >> >>So where is the balance point. At the axle shaft? I'm just trying to >>understand the logic >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. >>Capen >>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:04 AM >>To: rv6-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >> >>--> <recapen@earthlink.net> >> >> >>No requirement listed in the plans. I am using a SamJames mainwheel pant as a nosewheel pant since I am also using a larger tire and fork up front. >>I operate primarily from a grass strip which is not as good as it could be. >> >>I found that my nosewheel pant brackets were cracked - along with experiencing wheel shimmy. >> >>Research in the archives showed others that had balanced their wheelpants fore and aft. >> >>After balancing the nosewheel pant - both the shimmy and bracket cracking have gone...knock wood.... >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Allen Checca <allen@checca.net> >>>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 10:50 AM >>>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> >>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy >>> >>> >>>Where in the plans does it say that is necessary? >>> >>>Rv 6a 1050 hrs. >>> >>>Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:49 AM, djtoddb <djtoddb@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you balance the the nose wheel Pant??? Fore and aft of the nose wheel "axel" or from some other reference point?? >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Titan Tornado II with Jab 3300 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445877#445877 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:32:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Bob, You hit one of the main causes right on the head. Taildragers don't have this problem because they know failure to keep the nose up can cause a prop strike. YA GOTS TO KEEP THE NOSE UP! Land by not letting the nose wheel land. Shimmy is the least of the problems if one develops the bad habit of plopping the plane onto the ground, things that will happen are: Damage to the fiberglass nose strut fairing, Damage to the wheel pant, Damage to the nose strut, Damage to the mounting point, Damage to the strut itself, Damage to the prop, followed by Damage to the engine when poor habits develops into porpoiseing. Hey, ya want ta LQQK cool. Keep the nose UP! Barry On Friday, August 14, 2015, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) < BSchroeder@rideuta.com> wrote: > BSchroeder@rideuta.com <javascript:;>> > > Yea. I have some wheel shimmy in my six. But I hadn=99t checked the > stiffness of the nose wheel fork. I will do that at the earliest > convenience. When I land I always pull the stick back in my gut and negat es > most if not all of it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;> [mailto: > owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Ralph E. > Capen > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:33 AM > To: rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;> > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > <javascript:;>> > > > I had 190 hours when I replaced the nosegear brackets and balanced the > nosewheel pant. > I have about 260 on it now....another couple hundred will tell the tale - > I think that's what you were really asking..... > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com > <javascript:;>> > >Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:51 AM > >To: "'rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;>'" <rv6-list@matronics.com > <javascript:;>> > >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > >--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com <javascript:;>> > > > >Can I ask how many hours you had before you noticed the cracks and how > many since your repair? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;> > >[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of > Ralph E. > >Capen > >Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:40 AM > >To: rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;> > >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > >--> <recapen@earthlink.net <javascript:;>> > > > >I did mine at the axle shaft as I was finding my brackets cracked both > fore and aft of the axle..... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >>From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com > <javascript:;>> > >>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:27 AM > >>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;>" <rv6-list@matronics.com > <javascript:;>> > >>Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >> > >>--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com <javascript:;>> > >> > >>So where is the balance point. At the axle shaft? I'm just trying to > >>understand the logic > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;> > >>[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf > Of Ralph E. > >>Capen > >>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:04 AM > >>To: rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;> > >>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >> > >>--> <recapen@earthlink.net <javascript:;>> > >> > >> > >>No requirement listed in the plans. I am using a SamJames mainwheel > pant as a nosewheel pant since I am also using a larger tire and fork up > front. > >>I operate primarily from a grass strip which is not as good as it could > be. > >> > >>I found that my nosewheel pant brackets were cracked - along with > experiencing wheel shimmy. > >> > >>Research in the archives showed others that had balanced their > wheelpants fore and aft. > >> > >>After balancing the nosewheel pant - both the shimmy and bracket > cracking have gone...knock wood.... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Allen Checca <allen@checca.net <javascript:;>> > >>>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 10:50 AM > >>>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com <javascript:;>" <rv6-list@matronics.com > <javascript:;>> > >>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >>> > <javascript:;>> > >>> > >>>Where in the plans does it say that is necessary? > >>> > >>>Rv 6a 1050 hrs. > >>> > >>>Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:49 AM, djtoddb <djtoddb@yahoo.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>> > <javascript:;>> > >>>> > >>>> How do you balance the the nose wheel Pant??? Fore and aft of the > nose wheel "axel" or from some other reference point?? > >>>> > >>>> -------- > >>>> Titan Tornado II with Jab 3300 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Read this topic online here: > >>>> > >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445877#445877 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile


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    Time: 06:53:17 AM PST US
    From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
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    Time: 07:37:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Right you are Bob, You can't fly an RV like a Cessna, or. Piper... But who the hell would want to! Their are reasons why the elevator has so much throw build into it. Barry "Check 6" On Friday, August 14, 2015, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) < BSchroeder@rideuta.com> wrote: > A few years i bought a porpoised RV-6A that the pilot quit flying after > the wheels touched down. After the third bounce the nose gear rolled unde r > and took out the prop. It kept running but I tore down the engine and had > all the parts inspected and recertified. It=99s repaired and out fl ying and > the new owner is still carrying the RV grin. It was a shame that the pilo t > just didn=99t take actions to smooth out the rollout and save his a irplane. > > > *From:* owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com');> > [mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com');>] *O n > Behalf Of *FLYaDIVE > *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2015 7:32 AM > *To:* rv6-list@matronics.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rv6-list@matronics.com');> > *Subject:* Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > Bob, > > > You hit one of the main causes right on the head. Taildragers don't have > this problem because they know failure to keep the nose up can cause a pr op > strike. YA GOTS TO KEEP THE NOSE UP! Land by not letting the nose whee l > land. Shimmy is the least of the problems if one develops the bad habit of > plopping the plane onto the ground, things that will happen are: Damage to > the fiberglass nose strut fairing, Damage to the wheel pant, Damage to th e > nose strut, Damage to the mounting point, Damage to the strut itself, > Damage to the prop, followed by Damage to the engine when poor habits > develops into porpoiseing. > > > Hey, ya want ta LQQK cool. Keep the nose UP! > > > Barry > > On Friday, August 14, 2015, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) < > BSchroeder@rideuta.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','BSchroeder@rideuta.com');>> wrote: > > BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > > Yea. I have some wheel shimmy in my six. But I hadn=99t checked the > stiffness of the nose wheel fork. I will do that at the earliest > convenience. When I land I always pull the stick back in my gut and negat es > most if not all of it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 5:33 AM > To: rv6-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > > I had 190 hours when I replaced the nosegear brackets and balanced the > nosewheel pant. > I have about 260 on it now....another couple hundred will tell the tale - > I think that's what you were really asking..... > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > >Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:51 AM > >To: "'rv6-list@matronics.com'" <rv6-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > >--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > > > >Can I ask how many hours you had before you noticed the cracks and how > many since your repair? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > >[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. > >Capen > >Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:40 AM > >To: rv6-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > > > >--> <recapen@earthlink.net> > > > >I did mine at the axle shaft as I was finding my brackets cracked both > fore and aft of the axle..... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >>From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > >>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 11:27 AM > >>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> > >>Subject: RE: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >> > >>--> <BSchroeder@rideuta.com> > >> > >>So where is the balance point. At the axle shaft? I'm just trying to > >>understand the logic > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com > >>[mailto:owner-rv6-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. > >>Capen > >>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:04 AM > >>To: rv6-list@matronics.com > >>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >> > >>--> <recapen@earthlink.net> > >> > >> > >>No requirement listed in the plans. I am using a SamJames mainwheel > pant as a nosewheel pant since I am also using a larger tire and fork up > front. > >>I operate primarily from a grass strip which is not as good as it could > be. > >> > >>I found that my nosewheel pant brackets were cracked - along with > experiencing wheel shimmy. > >> > >>Research in the archives showed others that had balanced their > wheelpants fore and aft. > >> > >>After balancing the nosewheel pant - both the shimmy and bracket > cracking have gone...knock wood.... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Allen Checca <allen@checca.net> > >>>Sent: Aug 13, 2015 10:50 AM > >>>To: "rv6-list@matronics.com" <rv6-list@matronics.com> > >>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy > >>> > >>> > >>>Where in the plans does it say that is necessary? > >>> > >>>Rv 6a 1050 hrs. > >>> > >>>Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:49 AM, djtoddb <djtoddb@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> How do you balance the the nose wheel Pant??? Fore and aft of the > nose wheel "axel" or from some other reference point?? > >>>> > >>>> -------- > >>>> Titan Tornado II with Jab 3300 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Read this topic online here: > >>>> > >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445877#445877 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV6-List > ========== > FORUMS - > _blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > ============* > > onics.com/Navigator?RV6-List>* > > ============* > > ============* > > com/contribution>* > ============* > > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile


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    Time: 08:15:20 AM PST US
    From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@rideuta.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-6A Nose Wheel Shimmy
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