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Fri 12/27/02


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 11:30 AM - Tip-up Canopy Stiffening (LarryRobertHelming)
     2. 08:49 PM - Accidental IFR!!!! (Stein Bruch)
     3. 09:43 PM - Re: Accidental IFR!!!! (Brooks Wolfe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:30:00 AM PST US
    From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
    Subject: Tip-up Canopy Stiffening
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> There has been rv-list posts about the need to stiffen the tip-up canopy frame on the RV6. Is this an issue with any RV7/7A tip up builders? I am right to this stage and can see some benefit to doing it just to make the underside of the frame look better when it is open for the next guest co-pilot (wife) to climb in. (Paul Besing has nice documentation on his web site showing details of the process if any 7/7A tip-up builders have no already looked at it.) Larry in Indiana, working on RV7 to be named 3XG if its girl. Or 3XB if its a nose wheeler


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    Time: 08:49:53 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    "Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>, "Rv7-List" <rv7-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Accidental IFR!!!!
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Hi All, Slightly off-topic, but VERY pertinent none the less. Today a friend and I had the day off so we decided to fly from Minneapolis to Milwaukee to see some old buds at the Citabria factory. Weather online looked good...checked METARS,TAFS,RADAR,SATELLITE, etc.. Forecast was great...so.... We took off around 10:00 am for an expected 1.5 hour flight to Milwaukee. Great flight, 205mph over the ground and arrived at the Citabria factory's airport ahead of schedule to some hefty crosswinds, but nothing else. Stayed there until about 2:00pm then went outside to head home. Here starts my flight from hell. There was an overcast layer about 3500', but clear below and the forecasts looked OK, so off we went for MSP. Winds had picked up to 18G22 directly across the runway, but not a huge deal since the wind at home was only 8-12KT. Flew for about .5 hour and started running into some haze and the clouds were getting lower. We pressed on, but had decided to turn back if it didn't get better. Well, it didn't and about 5 minutes later the clouds dropped all the way to the ground and into a wall of fog/haze/clouds/overcast we went:( Made an immediate 180 to go back, but the weather suddenly had dropped all over the place. SOLID IFR/IMC and 0/0 visibility! Heading back didn't help. Called flight watch and found out the layer was only about 2000' thick and VFR on top. Since these planes just love to climb, we immediately went up above. Beautiful sun over the clouds and away towards Minneapolis we go! Fly back to the flight plan that was plugged into my SkyforceIIIc and proceeded to fly towards home when about 5 minutes later the GPS lost all satellite signals and I got a "no fix possible" warning. GREAT, no ground to look at and no GPS. We were originally just going to follow the good old Mississippi river home, but no good above a solid cloud deck. All this while flying against a 35Kt Cross/Headwind that made flying straight & level miserable, terribly bumpy (+4/-2G), and overall NO FUN. I had to revert to flying with the VOR---GOD I'm glad I put that thing in my panel! Pulled out the sectional, found some VOR's and got back on track towards home. Called flight watch and found out the clouds were breaking near Minneapolis so everything was pretty smooth from there. About 20 miles south of MSP the clouds broke and we arrived safely, albeit a bit tired, stressed, and somewhat rattled. Anyway, my whole point is that I've become some dependent on my GPS and it's flight plans that I've rarely had occasion to use my charts and VOR. Just thought I'd pass on a reminder to everyone that it definately pays to keep a sectional handy. Additionally, if you have a VOR, it pays to keep at least somewhat current! Oh, one last thing...flying IFR/IMC "accidently" is NO FUN and definately NOT SAFE when you're not prepared. Well, happy flying and CLEAR SKIES! Cheers, Stein Bruch RV6, Minneapolis Do Not Archive. P.S. I looked at the weather when I got home, and it looked much better than it actually was. Lesson Learned.


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    Time: 09:43:37 PM PST US
    From: "Brooks Wolfe" <slipstream13@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Accidental IFR!!!!
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brooks Wolfe" <slipstream13@earthlink.net> =0D =0D --> RV7-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>=0D =0D >Anyway, my whole point is that I've become some dependent on >my GPS and it s flight plans that I've rarely had occasion to use >my charts and VOR. . [snip].. If you have a VOR, it pays to >keep at least somewhat current!=0D Boy, ain't that the truth! Earlier this year I was trying to get out of Reno in a timely manner -- I don't remember why exactly, but a few minor issues had turned into a delay, and I was determined to make it up. Before we get to the runway, however, the FMS just went blank. Nada. Blank screen Never seen that before in my career. I took another look at our Departure Procedure, the Wagge 1, which is a mess (look it up). Depart south on on the i-rno localizer, intercept the HZN 230 radial at Wagge, then intercept the LLC 206 radial to Lovelock. All these turns happen within two to three minutes at our speed -- the first turn usually hits before our flaps are up. I muttered a few bleak swear words, since it was my leg and thus I'm actually expected to keep on top of all this. Plus, it's IMC, so I can't ask for a VFR climb, and the terrain around RNO is nothing to sneeze at. What am I going to do, taxi back to the gate and admit because of FMS, I've practically forgotten how to navigate with VORs? Argh.. I plan for the worst while the fella in the other seat busied himself pulling circuit breakers... At the count of 30, circuit breakers back in and .. FMS returns! We're saved!=0D Okay, so it wasn't that big a deal. I just like to ham up the drama sometimes. heh heh.=0D Do not archive=0D Brooks=0D -7, wings creeping along




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