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1. 11:07 AM - Impossible rivet location (Wayne Halbsgut)
2. 11:33 AM - Re: Impossible rivet location (Scott Bilinski)
3. 12:02 PM - Re: Impossible rivet location (Kevin Faris)
4. 12:13 PM - Re: Impossible rivet location (cary rhodes)
5. 12:28 PM - Re: Impossible rivet location (Dan Checkoway)
6. 12:45 PM - Re: Impossible rivet location (Wayne Halbsgut)
7. 07:18 PM - Canopy frame (Tom Reading)
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| Subject: | Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the problems I've encountered while
building the empennage, but I'm finally stumped.
I'm now working on the wings.
I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When looking at the center aileron
hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is almost touching the top flange of the
spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it, the skin rivet is EXACTLY in line with the
hinge (the hole is predrilled). I'm not sure a rivet will fit in the space
allowed, much less a rivet squeezer or bucking bar.
I may also have this problem with rivet above the outside aileron hinge.
What have others done when it comes time to rivet this hole?
Wayne
Perkasie, PA
working on the wings
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| Subject: | Re: Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@qcpi.com>
Are the wings right side up or is it down? I built my 8 wings with out
having this problem and 7 & 8 wings are the same. Also never hesitate to
call the factory.
At 02:08 PM 1/13/03 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
>
>I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the problems I've encountered
>while building the empennage, but I'm finally stumped.
>
>I'm now working on the wings.
>I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When looking at the center
>aileron hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is almost touching the top
>flange of the spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it, the skin rivet is EXACTLY
>in line with the hinge (the hole is predrilled). I'm not sure a rivet will
>fit in the space allowed, much less a rivet squeezer or bucking bar.
>
>I may also have this problem with rivet above the outside aileron hinge.
>
>What have others done when it comes time to rivet this hole?
>
>Wayne
>Perkasie, PA
>working on the wings
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 8220
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Kevin Faris" <kf64358@alltel.net>
Wayne,
That is what I thought as well when I first started the wings. If you read
ahead you will discover that the wing skins are riveted before the aileron
hinge brackets are installed. Therefore you do not have a problem with
bucking the skin rivets.
Kev
RV-7 finishing second wing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Halbsgut" <halbsgut@comcast.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Impossible rivet location
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
>
> I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the problems I've
encountered while building the empennage, but I'm finally stumped.
>
> I'm now working on the wings.
> I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When looking at the center
aileron hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is almost touching the top
flange of the spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it, the skin rivet is EXACTLY
in line with the hinge (the hole is predrilled). I'm not sure a rivet will
fit in the space allowed, much less a rivet squeezer or bucking bar.
>
> I may also have this problem with rivet above the outside aileron hinge.
>
> What have others done when it comes time to rivet this hole?
>
> Wayne
> Perkasie, PA
> working on the wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
A handful of 3/32 blind rivets can be your friend in a
few hard to get at spots.
20 years from now you will never remenber those nasty
pop rivet you put in an airplane.
cary rhodes
--- Kevin Faris <kf64358@alltel.net> wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Kevin Faris"
> <kf64358@alltel.net>
>
> Wayne,
>
> That is what I thought as well when I first started
> the wings. If you read
> ahead you will discover that the wing skins are
> riveted before the aileron
> hinge brackets are installed. Therefore you do not
> have a problem with
> bucking the skin rivets.
>
> Kev
> RV-7 finishing second wing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Halbsgut" <halbsgut@comcast.net>
> To: "RV-builders group" <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: Impossible rivet location
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut
> <halbsgut@comcast.net>
> >
> > I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the
> problems I've
> encountered while building the empennage, but I'm
> finally stumped.
> >
> > I'm now working on the wings.
> > I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When
> looking at the center
> aileron hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is
> almost touching the top
> flange of the spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it,
> the skin rivet is EXACTLY
> in line with the hinge (the hole is predrilled).
> I'm not sure a rivet will
> fit in the space allowed, much less a rivet squeezer
> or bucking bar.
> >
> > I may also have this problem with rivet above the
> outside aileron hinge.
> >
> > What have others done when it comes time to rivet
> this hole?
> >
> > Wayne
> > Perkasie, PA
> > working on the wings
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
The aileron hinge brackets can easily be riveted to the rear spar *after*
the top wing skins have been riveted on, before the bottom skins go on.
Just leave the hinge brackets off while you're riveting the top skins.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage/finish)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Halbsgut" <halbsgut@comcast.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Impossible rivet location
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
>
> I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the problems I've
encountered while building the empennage, but I'm finally stumped.
>
> I'm now working on the wings.
> I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When looking at the center
aileron hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is almost touching the top
flange of the spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it, the skin rivet is EXACTLY
in line with the hinge (the hole is predrilled). I'm not sure a rivet will
fit in the space allowed, much less a rivet squeezer or bucking bar.
>
> I may also have this problem with rivet above the outside aileron hinge.
>
> What have others done when it comes time to rivet this hole?
>
> Wayne
> Perkasie, PA
> working on the wings
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Impossible rivet location |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
Thanks Kevin,
I usually read ahead, but didn't catch this one. I cleco'd ALL of the parts
on the spar, then just assumed when the instructions said rivet the spar
assembly together, it meant including the hinges (the instructions don't
actually include the hinges up to that point). Reading the instructions
again, I see where the aileron hinges are installed later.
Saved me from doing something dumb.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Faris" <kf64358@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Impossible rivet location
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Kevin Faris" <kf64358@alltel.net>
>
> Wayne,
>
> That is what I thought as well when I first started the wings. If you
read
> ahead you will discover that the wing skins are riveted before the aileron
> hinge brackets are installed. Therefore you do not have a problem with
> bucking the skin rivets.
>
> Kev
> RV-7 finishing second wing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Halbsgut" <halbsgut@comcast.net>
> To: "RV-builders group" <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: Impossible rivet location
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
> >
> > I've been pretty good at figuring out most of the problems I've
> encountered while building the empennage, but I'm finally stumped.
> >
> > I'm now working on the wings.
> > I just cleco'd the rear spar parts together. When looking at the center
> aileron hinge bracket (W-413), the top edge is almost touching the top
> flange of the spar (W-707). Wouldn't ya know it, the skin rivet is
EXACTLY
> in line with the hinge (the hole is predrilled). I'm not sure a rivet
will
> fit in the space allowed, much less a rivet squeezer or bucking bar.
> >
> > I may also have this problem with rivet above the outside aileron hinge.
> >
> > What have others done when it comes time to rivet this hole?
> >
> > Wayne
> > Perkasie, PA
> > working on the wings
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Tom Reading <treading@comcast.net>
Just finished up the linkage to the frame and was reading ahead where it
said to mount the c-617 618 619 blocks. Its most likely simple but I can't
locate the blocks on the prints or spare parts.
Thanks
Tom,775TR RES Canopy
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