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1. 05:03 PM - Rudder Stiffeners (DANBERGERONHAM@AOL.com)
2. 06:05 PM - Re: Rudder Stiffeners (Dan Checkoway)
3. 06:27 PM - Re: Rudder Stiffeners (Gary Bataller)
4. 06:40 PM - Re: Rudder Stiffeners (Wayne Halbsgut)
5. 07:47 PM - compass in instrument panel?? (Julia)
6. 08:23 PM - Re: compass in instrument panel?? (Camille Patch)
7. 08:57 PM - Re: compass in instrument panel?? (Cy Galley)
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| Subject: | Rudder Stiffeners |
--> RV7-List message posted by: DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com
Can someone set me straight before I go nuts. Then maybe you have to be nuts
to get into this game to start with.
I started on my RV-7A six weeks ago and have gotten both HS sides and the VS
to the point of priming and final assembly. Wife put her foot down re
priming in the cellar, even with fans going and a good respirator, so I set
the parts aside to await warmer wx here in New England, and moved on to the
rudder last night. The first item under "Fitting the Stiffeners to the
Rudder Skin" on page 6-5 says: "Pre-punched holes in the R-915 rudder
stiffeners match corresponding pre-punched holes in the R-901-L and R-901R
rudder skins." Maybe I'm just tired after two long work days but I can match
only the top line of holes in the R-901 rudder skins to a stiffener, that
would be stiffener R-915H. The other seven lines of holes do not match any
of the seven remaining R-915 stiffeners. Strangely the first and last holes
match perfectly in all cases, but not the holes in between. What am I not
seeing here? The answer is probably staring me in the face, and I'm going to
feel stupid when this gets sorted out, but right now I'm stumped. I've
thought of just turning the stiffeners over and match drilling the undrilled
side to the skins. Did Vans maybe send me something that was meant for the
original RV-7 rudder?
Dan Bergeron
Chicopee, MA
RV-7A empennage in progress
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Stiffeners |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sounds like you probably got the wrong stiffener stock. What's the part #
on the stiffener stock?
Worst case, you can make your own stiffeners pretty easily -- if you have
enough spare angle stock around. That way you can save yourself the wait
for the replacement and still keep busy...
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (canopy)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <DANBERGERONHAM@AOL.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Rudder Stiffeners
> --> RV7-List message posted by: DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com
>
> Can someone set me straight before I go nuts. Then maybe you have to be
nuts
> to get into this game to start with.
>
> I started on my RV-7A six weeks ago and have gotten both HS sides and the
VS
> to the point of priming and final assembly. Wife put her foot down re
> priming in the cellar, even with fans going and a good respirator, so I
set
> the parts aside to await warmer wx here in New England, and moved on to
the
> rudder last night. The first item under "Fitting the Stiffeners to the
> Rudder Skin" on page 6-5 says: "Pre-punched holes in the R-915 rudder
> stiffeners match corresponding pre-punched holes in the R-901-L and R-901R
> rudder skins." Maybe I'm just tired after two long work days but I can
match
> only the top line of holes in the R-901 rudder skins to a stiffener, that
> would be stiffener R-915H. The other seven lines of holes do not match
any
> of the seven remaining R-915 stiffeners. Strangely the first and last
holes
> match perfectly in all cases, but not the holes in between. What am I not
> seeing here? The answer is probably staring me in the face, and I'm going
to
> feel stupid when this gets sorted out, but right now I'm stumped. I've
> thought of just turning the stiffeners over and match drilling the
undrilled
> side to the skins. Did Vans maybe send me something that was meant for
the
> original RV-7 rudder?
>
> Dan Bergeron
> Chicopee, MA
> RV-7A empennage in progress
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Stiffeners |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Gary Bataller" <gary_bataller@hotmail.com>
Hi Dan,
I have also just finished the initial assembly of the HS and VS and am
awaiting the warmer Massachusett temps to prime and then rivet. I just
started the rudder this evening, and here is the scoop:
Before you break the 915 strips in half, measure the hole spacings. You
will find that there are 17 hole-pairs. The 10, inner-most hole-pairs
measure 1 9/32"; the 7 outer-most hole-pairs measure 1 10/32". If you then
measure the rudder skin hole spacings, you will find that they all measure 1
9/32" at the top and then you will see that the 1 10/32" hole spacing start
to appear at the rear-most holes as you start down the rudder. Once you see
the pattern, it will click. The seemingly odd spacing must be to allow the
rivet lines to line up at the ends.
Gary Bataller
Westborough, MA
>From: DANBERGERONHAM@AOL.com
>Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>To: rv7-list-digest@matronics.com
>Subject: RV7-List: Rudder Stiffeners
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:02:20 EST
>
>--> RV7-List message posted by: DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com
>
>Can someone set me straight before I go nuts. Then maybe you have to be
>nuts
>to get into this game to start with.
>
>I started on my RV-7A six weeks ago and have gotten both HS sides and the
>VS
>to the point of priming and final assembly. Wife put her foot down re
>priming in the cellar, even with fans going and a good respirator, so I set
>the parts aside to await warmer wx here in New England, and moved on to the
>rudder last night. The first item under "Fitting the Stiffeners to the
>Rudder Skin" on page 6-5 says: "Pre-punched holes in the R-915 rudder
>stiffeners match corresponding pre-punched holes in the R-901-L and R-901R
>rudder skins." Maybe I'm just tired after two long work days but I can
>match
>only the top line of holes in the R-901 rudder skins to a stiffener, that
>would be stiffener R-915H. The other seven lines of holes do not match any
>of the seven remaining R-915 stiffeners. Strangely the first and last
>holes
>match perfectly in all cases, but not the holes in between. What am I not
>seeing here? The answer is probably staring me in the face, and I'm going
>to
>feel stupid when this gets sorted out, but right now I'm stumped. I've
>thought of just turning the stiffeners over and match drilling the
>undrilled
>side to the skins. Did Vans maybe send me something that was meant for the
>original RV-7 rudder?
>
>Dan Bergeron
>Chicopee, MA
>RV-7A empennage in progress
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Stiffeners |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Wayne Halbsgut <halbsgut@comcast.net>
Dan,
It sounds like you have the second side stiffeners upside down. The bend of
the stiffeners faces the top on one skin and the bottom of the rudder on the
other skin. Another way to look at it is, the tapered edge of all of the
stiffeners always point to the trailing edge of the rudder (regardless of
which skin you're looking at. When the skins are riveted together, the
stiffeners mesh.
Wayne
Perkasie, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: <DANBERGERONHAM@AOL.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Rudder Stiffeners
> --> RV7-List message posted by: DANBERGERONHAM@aol.com
>
> Can someone set me straight before I go nuts. Then maybe you have to be
nuts
> to get into this game to start with.
>
> I started on my RV-7A six weeks ago and have gotten both HS sides and the
VS
> to the point of priming and final assembly. Wife put her foot down re
> priming in the cellar, even with fans going and a good respirator, so I
set
> the parts aside to await warmer wx here in New England, and moved on to
the
> rudder last night. The first item under "Fitting the Stiffeners to the
> Rudder Skin" on page 6-5 says: "Pre-punched holes in the R-915 rudder
> stiffeners match corresponding pre-punched holes in the R-901-L and R-901R
> rudder skins." Maybe I'm just tired after two long work days but I can
match
> only the top line of holes in the R-901 rudder skins to a stiffener, that
> would be stiffener R-915H. The other seven lines of holes do not match
any
> of the seven remaining R-915 stiffeners. Strangely the first and last
holes
> match perfectly in all cases, but not the holes in between. What am I not
> seeing here? The answer is probably staring me in the face, and I'm going
to
> feel stupid when this gets sorted out, but right now I'm stumped. I've
> thought of just turning the stiffeners over and match drilling the
undrilled
> side to the skins. Did Vans maybe send me something that was meant for
the
> original RV-7 rudder?
>
> Dan Bergeron
> Chicopee, MA
> RV-7A empennage in progress
>
>
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| Subject: | compass in instrument panel?? |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
is a magnetic compass mounted in the instrument panel a bad idea - I got a good
one that claims to be ok for this application. My main concern was that I want
NOTHING obstructing my view out front - what have you all heard and what is
the best way?
thanks
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| Subject: | Re: compass in instrument panel?? |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Camille Patch" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
I used to fly a Grumman Yankee with the mag compass on the left side of the
panel. I really liked it, especially for instrument training, since I didn't
have to look up.
-----
Cammie
> is a magnetic compass mounted in the instrument panel a bad idea - I got a
good one that claims to be ok for this application. My main concern was that
I want NOTHING obstructing my view out front - what have you all heard and
what is the best way?
Message 7
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| Subject: | Re: compass in instrument panel?? |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Most commercial planes have the compass mounted up away from the other
instruments and radios so as to reduce magnetic interference. You idea has
merit but hasn't proved very practical.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julia" <wings97302@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV7-List: compass in instrument panel??
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
>
>
> is a magnetic compass mounted in the instrument panel a bad idea - I got a
good one that claims to be ok for this application. My main concern was that
I want NOTHING obstructing my view out front - what have you all heard and
what is the best way?
>
> thanks
>
>
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>
>
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