---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/02/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:47 PM - Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness (LarryRobertHelming) 2. 04:52 PM - Fellow RV builders I need your input/help (Merems) 3. 05:15 PM - Re: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness (N223RV@AOL.com) 4. 05:47 PM - SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Belt and Shoulder Harness (Francis, David CMDR) 5. 06:53 PM - 5 point seat belts. (LarryRobertHelming) 6. 07:12 PM - Re: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness (N67BT@AOL.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:52 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" I am looking at Van's and others for Seat Belts and Harnesses. Nothing in archives about the Tuf Tow belt vendor that Vans lists in the catalog. Anyone had good service with Tuf Tow? Others? Indiana Larry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:37 PM PST US From: "Merems" , , , Subject: RV7-List: Fellow RV builders I need your input/help --> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" Fellow RV-7/8/9/10 builders, I need to get some feedback from all of you RV7/8/9/10 builders out there. As some of you know I am in process of developing innovative solutions to help RV builders (http://www.experimentalaero.com/ )I am getting final pricing on the Modular Tie Down System (MTDS-1) and I need feedback on pricing. The MTDS-1 (http://www.experimentalaero.com/MTDS-1.htm) is a tie down system that uses custom quick release pins and flush mount anchors in the floor, side and back of the baggage bay. With multiple anchor points the owner can configure the tie downs to fit their cargo needs. Since the anchors are flush, the unused anchor points won't interfere with the cargo, boxes can sit flush on the floor and softer baggage won't get hung up. Installation is quick and easy, no special tools required. The homebuilt/experimental market doesn't command high volumes. In tern it is very difficult to get volume discounts from vendors. Which means the higher cost gets passed to the customer. In order for a product to be successful it must fulfill a need and be priced right. I need to get an understanding from fellow builders and possible customers how much you would pay for the MTDS-1. I plan on offering it as single quick release pins, single flush anchors, webbing and buckles. I believe the common configuration would be two strap assemblies (webbing/buckle with two release pins) and 6 anchors. This system would cost between $75-100. What is the maximum amount you would pay for this functionality. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Paul ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:01 PM PST US From: N223RV@AOL.com Subject: Re: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com I have Hooker Harnesses and Love them! -Mike Kraus N223RV - RV-4 - Flying ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:35 PM PST US From: "Francis, David CMDR" Subject: RV7-List: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: "Francis, David CMDR" Larry, If you are going to do any aerobatics at all may I suggest you try Hooker Harnesses. Additionally, if you plan to ever have a sudden stop may I firmly recommend a 5 point harness. The central point is very important to prevent "submarining". This is you slipping under the seat belt of a 4 point harness and suffering ankle injury as your feet slide into the firewall, or groin injury as your favourite bits of anatomy are impaled on the stick. This data comes from some analysis of otherwise survivable crashes in Australia. I just took delivery of my 5 point harness from Hooker and must say its very robust looking, and far tougher than what I see in Piper and Cessna products. The price was very competitive against all but the very flimsy airline passenger seat style of belts, and certainly cheaper than anything I could get in Australia. Regards, David Francis, VH-ZEE, Canberra, Australia -----Original Message----- Subject: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" I am looking at Van's and others for Seat Belts and Harnesses. Nothing in archives about the Tuf Tow belt vendor that Vans lists in the catalog. Anyone had good service with Tuf Tow? Others? Indiana Larry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:50 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: RV7-List: 5 point seat belts. --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Can anyone comment on installing 5 point seat harness if floors are pop riveted down already per the building manual? Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip-up TMX-O-360 ACS2002 Dynon CNS430 Digitrak On Finish Kit ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:51 PM PST US From: N67BT@AOL.com Subject: Re: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com Myself------ > I have Hooker Harnesses and Love them! >