---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/06/03: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:00 PM - Re: Belt and Shoulder Harness (LarryRobertHelming) 2. 07:16 PM - Re: Belt and Shoulder Harness (Dean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:26 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV7-List: Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Thanks to everyone that replied on list and off about seat belts/harnesses. It seems the first choice amongst acrobatically enthused is the Hooker Harness. And Hooker is said by some to be proud of their product (I guess that means higher price). Gus at Vans said the lower costing Tuf Tow harness looks like the standard they carry but the Tuf Tow cannot be used with the crotch belt option. Seems just about everyone who wrote either uses or advised using the crotch belt for added safety. Would anyone with pictures on how to anchor the crotch belt please post a reference? Is anyone one using or happy with Simpson Harness? do not archive Indiana Larry, RV7. Tip-up. TMX-O-360 is on the delivery truck and Mattituck did one great job on a new gold and black engine. Prepping for painting. Base Color is Viper Racing Yellow w/green stripe maybe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis, David CMDR" Subject: RV7-List: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Belt and Shoulder Harness > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Francis, David CMDR" > > Larry, > If you are going to do any aerobatics at all may I suggest you try Hooker > Harnesses. Additionally, if you plan to ever have a sudden stop may I firmly > recommend a 5 point harness. The central point is very important to prevent > "submarining". This is you slipping under the seat belt of a 4 point harness > and suffering ankle injury as your feet slide into the firewall, or groin > injury as your favourite bits of anatomy are impaled on the stick. > > This data comes from some analysis of otherwise survivable crashes in > Australia. > > I just took delivery of my 5 point harness from Hooker and must say its very > robust looking, and far tougher than what I see in Piper and Cessna > products. The price was very competitive against all but the very flimsy > airline passenger seat style of belts, and certainly cheaper than anything I > could get in Australia. > > Regards, David Francis, VH-ZEE, Canberra, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" > > > I am looking at Van's and others for Seat Belts and > Harnesses. Nothing in > archives about the Tuf Tow belt vendor that Vans lists in > the catalog. > Anyone had good service with Tuf Tow? Others? > > Indiana Larry > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:46 PM PST US From: "Dean" Subject: Re: RV7-List: Belt and Shoulder Harness --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dean" Larry I don't have decent photos to pass on to the photoshare, but I found Van's kit for the crotch belt anchor well documented and not difficult to install on my non-aerobatic RV-9A. It will be somewhat easier to install while you are still in the building phase. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A (finish kit) N799DE (reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV7-List: Belt and Shoulder Harness > --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" > > Thanks to everyone that replied on list and off about seat belts/harnesses. > It seems the first choice amongst acrobatically enthused is the Hooker > Harness. And Hooker is said by some to be proud of their product (I guess > that means higher price). Gus at Vans said the lower costing Tuf Tow > harness looks like the standard they carry but the Tuf Tow cannot be used > with the crotch belt option. Seems just about everyone who wrote either > uses or advised using the crotch belt for added safety. Would anyone with > pictures on how to anchor the crotch belt please post a reference? > > Is anyone one using or happy with Simpson Harness? > do not archive > > Indiana Larry, RV7. Tip-up. TMX-O-360 is on the delivery truck and Mattituck > did one great job on a new gold and black engine. > Prepping for painting. > Base Color is Viper Racing Yellow w/green stripe maybe. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Francis, David CMDR" > To: > Subject: RV7-List: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED Belt and Shoulder Harness > > > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Francis, David CMDR" > > > > > Larry, > > If you are going to do any aerobatics at all may I suggest you try Hooker > > Harnesses. Additionally, if you plan to ever have a sudden stop may I > firmly > > recommend a 5 point harness. The central point is very important to > prevent > > "submarining". This is you slipping under the seat belt of a 4 point > harness > > and suffering ankle injury as your feet slide into the firewall, or groin > > injury as your favourite bits of anatomy are impaled on the stick. > > > > This data comes from some analysis of otherwise survivable crashes in > > Australia. > > > > I just took delivery of my 5 point harness from Hooker and must say its > very > > robust looking, and far tougher than what I see in Piper and Cessna > > products. The price was very competitive against all but the very flimsy > > airline passenger seat style of belts, and certainly cheaper than anything > I > > could get in Australia. > > > > Regards, David Francis, VH-ZEE, Canberra, Australia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: RV7-List: Seat Belt and Shoulder Harness > > > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" > > > > > > I am looking at Van's and others for Seat Belts and > > Harnesses. Nothing in > > archives about the Tuf Tow belt vendor that Vans lists in > > the catalog. > > Anyone had good service with Tuf Tow? Others? > > > > Indiana Larry > > > > > >