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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
My experience:
I have had no need so far for reversible drill.
Despite all the talk about high speed being critical, I have found that my
18v DeWalt battery drill does just fine for most things, and produces holes
and countersinks that look just as good as those made with my 6,000 rpm
Dotco. It also uses a very tiny percentage of the energy to run that the
air drill requires.
I had 3 rivet guns; used CP 2x, used 3x Sioux, used 6x unknown brand.
Trigger on the 6x is outstanding, but the gun is bigger and heavier. I
decided to pony up for a new Sioux 2x from Avery, to get a better trigger.
After getting it, I was not impressed at all with its much-ballyhoooed
trigger; it's no better than the 2x and 3x I already had. I am hoping it
will loosen/smooth up with more use. I see no difference between a 2x with
more pressure and a 3x with a bit less pressure. I'd recommend the 2x just
because it's a little smaller and lighter.
For true gun control, get yourself a diaphragm-type pressure regulator. The
rotating dial types are a useless waste of money. The imported kind with
the screw-down knob is better than the rotating dial type, but both are
really just FLOW regulators, not pressure regulators. So, every time you
let off the trigger, the next time you open it, you have a burst of full
tank pressure as the built-up pressure bleeds off. See
http://brian76.mystarband.net/tools.htm for more details.
brian
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I checked the archives and read all there is about air drills and rivet
guns. I was hoping I could pick your brains about this.
Drills: Is a reversable drill just nice to have or does it really come in
handy? Is there a minimum RPM that you have looked for?
Rivet Guns: It seems the general concensus on the archives is that a 2X or
3X will work, especially on the
Quick build type kits. Is there a reason to lean towards one
type or the other?
Do the Sioux type (higher end) models really make a difference?
I don't want to spend a fortune on tools, but would rather get a good tool
once then to buy several over time.
I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance,
John Brunke
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 08:17, Brian Meyette wrote:
> I see no difference between a 2x with
> more pressure and a 3x with a bit less pressure. I'd recommend the 2x just
> because it's a little smaller and lighter.
Keep in mind that the ideal way to set a rivet (in a perfect world)
would be *one* hit, just hard enough to set the rivet to it's proper
driven state. The more you hit the rivet, the harder the metal in it
gets; if you were to set it with a thousand light hits you'd have a rock
hard, brittle rivet in that hole, even if it looked really pretty and
properly set on the outside.
The moral of the story is, the less hits on the rivet the better. So go
with a 3x if you can't tell the difference anyway, it gives "bigger
hits" and typically will take less of them to set a given rivet than a
2x. Is it significant? Maybe, maybe not. Opinions vary.
I bought a 3x Sioux, FWIW.
-Rob P.
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