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1. 01:27 AM - Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. (Jeff Williams)
2. 03:49 AM - Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. (Curt Hoffman)
3. 05:06 AM - Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. (Jim Nolan)
4. 05:33 AM - Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. (Burton Loewen)
5. 08:55 AM - Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/05/03 (JoBobSC@AOL.com)
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Subject: | Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
Hey guys-
My father and I are thinking about taking on an RV-7 quick build.. I am
going to continue to train in our 172 then move to the RV after it is
built.. I was just wondering if any of you could point me to a few websites
that would tell me where we might go to take a few classes or whatever is
needed to build the quick build kit.. Also, the Van's site states a quick
build kit can be built in 500-800 hours, how realistic is this quote? I know
alot will depend on how often we can work on it..
This will be our first homebuilt aircraft. I've been told by many who have
built them that it is VERY similar to building an R/C airplane, which I do
for some "side money." Anyhow, we'd like to know where to "start."
Also, one question we do have is on the spar, do many of you reccomend doing
it yourself or buying the prefabbed spar offered on the van's website? My
dad isn't so sure he wants to rivet the spar together since he's never
really rivetted anything in his life. :D
I think from what I've heard we should have no problems with the build, but
just thought I'd ask you guys!!
Thanks alot!!
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
The spars are all prebuilt. The option to rivet your own spar is not an
option for the 7/7A. It was for the 4 and 6, maybe for the 8 (I'm not sure)
but is not for the 7 and 9. This is true whether you get the quick build or
not. If you read the web site for the 7 you will see that the prebuilt spar
is standard.
There are several classes on riveting including the EAA Sportair classes and
several listed on Vans site. Most of us have learned by doing and having
some other builders around to guide. If you do as many do, get the tail
first and work on that. Get some scrap aluminum and practice making holes
and riveting and then work on the smaller pieces. You'll ruin a couple and
order new ones and then be on your way. The classes can certainly speed up
the process and boost confidence though I'm sure. They have the classes
where you can go and build the tail in a week and take it home. That
combined with the quickbuild would get you in the air in a hurry.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings done for now- working on tail
Quick build fuselage now in basement
Piper Cherokee N5320W
1974 TR6
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Contemplating Rv-7 Build..
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
>
> Hey guys-
>
> My father and I are thinking about taking on an RV-7 quick build.. I am
> going to continue to train in our 172 then move to the RV after it is
> built.. I was just wondering if any of you could point me to a few
websites
> that would tell me where we might go to take a few classes or whatever is
> needed to build the quick build kit.. Also, the Van's site states a quick
> build kit can be built in 500-800 hours, how realistic is this quote? I
know
> alot will depend on how often we can work on it..
>
> This will be our first homebuilt aircraft. I've been told by many who have
> built them that it is VERY similar to building an R/C airplane, which I do
> for some "side money." Anyhow, we'd like to know where to "start."
>
> Also, one question we do have is on the spar, do many of you reccomend
doing
> it yourself or buying the prefabbed spar offered on the van's website? My
> dad isn't so sure he wants to rivet the spar together since he's never
> really rivetted anything in his life. :D
>
> I think from what I've heard we should have no problems with the build,
but
> just thought I'd ask you guys!!
>
> Thanks alot!!
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jamespnolan@earthlink.net>
Jeff,
Night and day wouldn't represent the difference between an RV and a 172.
You've picked the most advanced kit Van's Aircraft has. I am starting an RV7
now. After building my RV4 twelve years ago and being very proud of the fact
I did build it, I've decided to get a quickbuild even if I have to borrow
the money. Time flying is paramount to time building.
By the way, I don't think you have to worry about building the spar.
It's done for you. Enjoy building and flying.
Jim Nolan
N444JN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Contemplating Rv-7 Build..
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
>
> Hey guys-
>
> My father and I are thinking about taking on an RV-7 quick build.. I am
> going to continue to train in our 172 then move to the RV after it is
> built.. I was just wondering if any of you could point me to a few
websites
> that would tell me where we might go to take a few classes or whatever is
> needed to build the quick build kit.. Also, the Van's site states a quick
> build kit can be built in 500-800 hours, how realistic is this quote? I
know
> alot will depend on how often we can work on it..
>
> This will be our first homebuilt aircraft. I've been told by many who have
> built them that it is VERY similar to building an R/C airplane, which I do
> for some "side money." Anyhow, we'd like to know where to "start."
>
> Also, one question we do have is on the spar, do many of you reccomend
doing
> it yourself or buying the prefabbed spar offered on the van's website? My
> dad isn't so sure he wants to rivet the spar together since he's never
> really rivetted anything in his life. :D
>
> I think from what I've heard we should have no problems with the build,
but
> just thought I'd ask you guys!!
>
> Thanks alot!!
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Contemplating Rv-7 Build.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Burton Loewen" <karenandburtloewen@mts.net>
A common misunderstanding by people starting to or thinking of building any
RV is that the quoted hours, 600-900, or whatever, will get you into the
air. Realistically, before you get authorization to fly the airplane, 3000
hrs or more will probably be invested.
Van's only count the hours that it will take an average or quicker builder
to assemble the pieces which they supply. The extra hours are accumulated in
the little extras, like engine and prop installation, painting,
upholstering, instrument panel and it goes on and on.
I have decided for myself that my Rv-7 is a 5 year project, dedicating
approx 20 hrs per week, and I think that this realistic.
Just starting finishing kit and loving every challenging minute of it.
Burt Loewen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Contemplating Rv-7 Build..
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
>
> The spars are all prebuilt. The option to rivet your own spar is not an
> option for the 7/7A. It was for the 4 and 6, maybe for the 8 (I'm not
sure)
> but is not for the 7 and 9. This is true whether you get the quick build
or
> not. If you read the web site for the 7 you will see that the prebuilt
spar
> is standard.
>
> There are several classes on riveting including the EAA Sportair classes
and
> several listed on Vans site. Most of us have learned by doing and having
> some other builders around to guide. If you do as many do, get the tail
> first and work on that. Get some scrap aluminum and practice making holes
> and riveting and then work on the smaller pieces. You'll ruin a couple and
> order new ones and then be on your way. The classes can certainly speed up
> the process and boost confidence though I'm sure. They have the classes
> where you can go and build the tail in a week and take it home. That
> combined with the quickbuild would get you in the air in a hurry.
>
> Curt Hoffman
> RV-9A wings done for now- working on tail
> Quick build fuselage now in basement
> Piper Cherokee N5320W
> 1974 TR6
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: Contemplating Rv-7 Build..
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
> >
> > Hey guys-
> >
> > My father and I are thinking about taking on an RV-7 quick build.. I am
> > going to continue to train in our 172 then move to the RV after it is
> > built.. I was just wondering if any of you could point me to a few
> websites
> > that would tell me where we might go to take a few classes or whatever
is
> > needed to build the quick build kit.. Also, the Van's site states a
quick
> > build kit can be built in 500-800 hours, how realistic is this quote? I
> know
> > alot will depend on how often we can work on it..
> >
> > This will be our first homebuilt aircraft. I've been told by many who
have
> > built them that it is VERY similar to building an R/C airplane, which I
do
> > for some "side money." Anyhow, we'd like to know where to "start."
> >
> > Also, one question we do have is on the spar, do many of you reccomend
> doing
> > it yourself or buying the prefabbed spar offered on the van's website?
My
> > dad isn't so sure he wants to rivet the spar together since he's never
> > really rivetted anything in his life. :D
> >
> > I think from what I've heard we should have no problems with the build,
> but
> > just thought I'd ask you guys!!
> >
> > Thanks alot!!
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/05/03 |
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