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1. 10:15 AM - Re: Wing Rear Spar trim detail (Sargentclt@cs.com)
2. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: CloudCars prop (Sargentclt@cs.com)
3. 01:02 PM - Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions (Frank Stringham)
4. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions (Frank Stringham)
5. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions (Charlie England)
6. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions (Charlie England)
7. 07:24 PM - Re: Wing Rear Spar trim detail (Imken)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Rear Spar trim detail |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Sargentclt@cs.com
IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE FUEL TANK SUPPORT IT IS OK TO CUT IT HOWEVER
LEAVE IT ABOUT 1/8 OVER SIZED JUST IN CASE. IF YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT THE REAR
SUPPORT ID LEAVE IT LONG AND TRIM IT LATER. YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU FIT THE WINGS
WHAT I MEAN. IN ETHER CASE LEAVE THEM LONG AND YOU CAN TRIM THEM LATER.
BETTER TOO LONG THAN TOO SHORT.
TAD SARGENT 7A FINISH KIT
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| Subject: | Re: RE: CloudCars prop |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Sargentclt@cs.com
What is Jay's web address
Tad Sargent RV7A
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| Subject: | Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Frank Stringham <fstringham7a@yahoo.com>
7A group
My name is Frank Stringham and have two homes; one in Murray Utah (suburb of SLC)
and St George Utah (SGU). During the past three years I have been attempting to
build a Vision composite aircraft by American Affordable Aircraft. In short,
I probably wouldn't finish it in my life time, don't like fiberglass to work
in(but sure like the slick beauty of the plane), and didn't like the clean up
process after a days work. This brings me to the 7A which I am now considering.
I have great resources for help in my home areas, like the capabilities of the
plane, and feel I might be able to complete in my life time. But, the cost,
old engine technology, and lack of metal experience gives me pause.
So my questions: 1. Is Vans good to work with and are they willing to give help
and make good on orders that fall short of required materials, or defective materials.
2. Is QB worth the extra money and about how much time does it save
over standard build. 3. Are there any 7A's close to either of my homes that are
complete and the owner willing to give me a ride. 4. Is the learing curve reasonable
to become proficient in the skills necessary to build the 7A.
I have enjoyed reading your group e-mails. It appears that like my Vision family,
most are helpful, great info is given, and few fueds. Seems just like home.
Thanks in advance.
Frank
435-632-6895
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| Subject: | Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Frank Stringham <fstringham7a@yahoo.com>
Frank Stringham <fstringham7a@yahoo.com> wrote:--> RV7-List message posted by:
Frank Stringham
7A group
My name is Frank Stringham and have two homes; one in Murray Utah (suburb of SLC)
and St George Utah (SGU). During the past three years I have been attempting to
build a Vision composite aircraft by American Affordable Aircraft. In short,
I probably wouldn't finish it in my life time, don't like fiberglass to work in(but
sure like the slick beauty of the plane), and didn't like the clean up process
after a days work. This brings me to the 7A which I am now considering.
I have great resources for help in my home areas, like the capabilities of the
plane, and feel I might be able to complete in my life time. But, the cost,
old engine technology, and lack of metal experience gives me pause.
So my questions: 1. Is Vans good to work with and are they willing to give help
and make good on orders that fall short of required materials, or defective materials.
2. Is QB worth the extra money and about how much time does it save
over standard build. 3. Are there any 7A's close to either of my homes that are
complete and the owner willing to give me a ride. 4. Is the learing curve reasonable
to become proficient in the skills necessary to build the 7A.
I have enjoyed reading your group e-mails. It appears that like my Vision family,
most are helpful, great info is given, and few fueds. Seems just like home.
Thanks in advance.
Frank
435-632-6895
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| Subject: | Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Frank Stringham wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Frank Stringham <fstringham7a@yahoo.com>
>
>
>7A group
>
>My name is Frank Stringham and have two homes; one in Murray Utah (suburb of
SLC)
>and St George Utah (SGU). During the past three years I have been attempting to
build a Vision composite aircraft by American Affordable Aircraft. In short,
I probably wouldn't finish it in my life time, don't like fiberglass to work
in(but sure like the slick beauty of the plane), and didn't like the clean up
process after a days work. This brings me to the 7A which I am now considering.
I have great resources for help in my home areas, like the capabilities of
the plane, and feel I might be able to complete in my life time. But, the cost,
old engine technology, and lack of metal experience gives me pause.
>So my questions: 1. Is Vans good to work with and are they willing to give help
and make good on orders that fall short of required materials, or defective
materials. 2. Is QB worth the extra money and about how much time does it save
over standard build. 3. Are there any 7A's close to either of my homes that are
complete and the owner willing to give me a ride. 4. Is the learing curve reasonable
to become proficient in the skills necessary to build the 7A.
>
>I have enjoyed reading your group e-mails. It appears that like my Vision family,
most are helpful, great info is given, and few fueds. Seems just like home.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Frank
>435-632-6895
>
If you have had any success at all following the plans for a plans-built
plane, the -7 will not be a problem. Van's support is well above
average. Most guesses at the value of the QB option are around $8.00/hr
of your time. Your available time vs. available finances take over from
there. I found the learning curve for a/c metal work (read that
riveting) to be short & shallow. I trust my ability to detect poorly
riveted parts much more than I trust my ability to detect inadequate
quality in structural fiberglas work.
One often ignored advantage of prepunched metal planes like the RV's is
the high probability that the plane will have predictable & benign
flying characteristics when complete. Many of the older designs, both
metal & glass, are totally dependent on the builder's ability to
properly jig & construct the airframe. With prepunch, if you can line up
the holes you will have a pretty straight airframe with predictable
stall characteristics.
I'm nowhere near Utah but there are probably at least a dozen RV's
within driving distance who would give you a ride. Try calling Vans for
a list of flying planes.
Charlie
-7 wings
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| Subject: | Re: RV Potential New Builder Questions |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Frank Stringham wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Frank Stringham <fstringham7a@yahoo.com>
>
>
>7A group
>
>My name is Frank Stringham and have two homes; one in Murray Utah (suburb of
SLC)
>and St George Utah (SGU). During the past three years I have been attempting to
build a Vision composite aircraft by American Affordable Aircraft. In short,
I probably wouldn't finish it in my life time, don't like fiberglass to work
in(but sure like the slick beauty of the plane), and didn't like the clean up
process after a days work. This brings me to the 7A which I am now considering.
I have great resources for help in my home areas, like the capabilities of
the plane, and feel I might be able to complete in my life time. But, the cost,
old engine technology, and lack of metal experience gives me pause.
>So my questions: 1. Is Vans good to work with and are they willing to give help
and make good on orders that fall short of required materials, or defective
materials. 2. Is QB worth the extra money and about how much time does it save
over standard build. 3. Are there any 7A's close to either of my homes that are
complete and the owner willing to give me a ride. 4. Is the learing curve reasonable
to become proficient in the skills necessary to build the 7A.
>
>I have enjoyed reading your group e-mails. It appears that like my Vision family,
most are helpful, great info is given, and few fueds. Seems just like home.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Frank
>435-632-6895
>
If you have had any success at all following the plans for a plans-built
plane, the -7 will not be a problem. Van's support is well above
average. Most guesses at the value of the QB option are around $8.00/hr
of your time. Your available time vs. available finances take over from
there. I found the learning curve for a/c metal work (read that
riveting) to be short & shallow. I trust my ability to detect poorly
riveted parts much more than I trust my ability to detect inadequate
quality in structural fiberglas work.
One often ignored advantage of prepunched metal planes like the RV's is
the high probability that the plane will have predictable & benign
flying characteristics when complete. Many of the older designs, both
metal & glass, are totally dependent on the builder's ability to
properly jig & construct the airframe. With prepunch, if you can line up
the holes you will have a pretty straight airframe with predictable
stall characteristics.
I'm nowhere near Utah but there are probably at least a dozen RV's
within driving distance who would give you a ride. Try calling Vans for
a list of flying planes.
Charlie
-7 wings
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| Subject: | Wing Rear Spar trim detail |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
I just trimmed mine two weeks ago after a trial fit of finished wings to the
fuse. You need that 5/8 " edge distance when you drill the rear spar for
the angle of incidence. Trimming before assembly may be cutting it too
close for comfort. I'd wait until you slip the wings on and sneak up on the
trimming. Once cut, it's hard to replace.
Chuck Imken
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Allen Fulmer
Subject: RV7-List: Wing Rear Spar trim detail
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer@charter.net>
RV7
Rear spar preparations
DWG 10A Wing Exploded View
Detail C says "RV-7/7A Builder Only! See DWG 38 Rear Spar Trim Detail"
Don't have DWG 38 yet but preview plans gives the dimensions to trim the
W-707G Rear Spar Reinf. Fork and
W-707D Rear Spar Doubler Plate.
Seems it would be best to trim those before assembly of the rear spar.
Comments?
Nothing in the archives.
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Wings
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