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1. 07:35 AM - Re: canopy choice (Darwin Barrie)
2. 09:18 AM - Re: Primer-I am finally out of the SW wash primer (Herron, Al)
3. 07:57 PM - Re: rv7a tools (Hopperdhh@AOL.com)
4. 07:57 PM - S-W Primer (Jim Duckett)
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| Subject: | Re: canopy choice |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Darwin Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Hi Mary Beth,
I am nearing completion of my 7 tip up. I have rode in several tip up's and sliders.
The only significant advantages I see to the slider is the ability to taxi
with it open, you can leave it open at Fly-Ins for people to look inside and
according to most it might be a little easier to construct. Ingress and egress
is the same.
The tip up provides excellent visibility and most importantly access to the bulk
of the avionics. And, as Dan noted, you can put access panel in up front for
the rest.
The stiffener kit is now supposedly standard. It does add considerable strength
to the structure. I would suggest you go an ride in both and evaluate for your
self. Either way it is an RV will be enjoyed to the max!!
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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| Subject: | Primer-I am finally out of the SW wash primer |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Herron, Al" <Al.Herron@Aerojet.com>
I have had the same problem with the Sherwin-Williams wash primer. Also,
instead of the clear primer that Van's used, the product I received was a
translucent green color. Not much of a problem since any visible areas will
receive a color topcoat, but certainly not the product I was expecting. My
main concern is the "splotchy" application. If you don't need a clear
finish, I'd recommend VariPrime instead, even though it's more expensive.
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Subject: RV7-List: Primer-I am finally out of the SW wash primer
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Fellow builders,
I just finished primering the wing skins and I am finally out of the SW wash
primer. I am very disappointed in this product and do not recommend it.
Years ago I used a wash primer similar to the SW on my RV-4 with very little
problems, however the SW was a real nightmare. My main issue is spitting of
chunks of semi congealed primer on the surface and runs. I mixed the primer
per the directions, tried different pressures and different guns, but still
similar results. I live in Arizona and the climate is a bit dry which may
have contributed. The inside of my wing skins are speckled with primer, but
know one will see this.
Now that I am finished primering all my wing components I will be using the
AKZO primer on the fuselage. It may be more of a little hassle to set up,
but the results appear so much more consistent then the SW primer.
Paul
RV-4/RV-7A
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Lucio,
Your English is infinitely better than my Italian. It is a delight to hear
from you, please don't hesitate to post listings letting us know how your
project is doing.
I bought the Avery tool set when I started my RV-7A, and have found it to be
one of my best investments. You will have the tools to do 98 percent of the
project. A local junk yard provided some scrap steel for a back riveting plate
and some oddball bucking bars. I used a large punch backed up by a bucking
bar several places where regular bucking bars didn't work.
The Avery set will only amount to about 1/20 (5%) of your total investment,
and you'll still have it after your first RV is finished.
By the way, the 7A is a fantastic airplane -- you'll love it.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying since 7/7/04 -- 55 hours now)
In a message dated 9/23/04 9:19:16 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
rv7alucio@yahoo.it writes:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Lucio Castrogiovanni <rv7alucio@yahoo.it>
>
> Hi at all
> first of all I'm sorry for my bed english
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> I write from Italy and my target is built an rv7a, I'd like know wich tools
> I need for built the van's (standard) kit??
>
> The question appear stupid but I don't wont loose my money an my budget is
> pretty limited
>
> What about the tools kits from cleveland an so???
>
> tanks
>
> Lucio rv7a (pogect at dress the shop)
>
> do not archive
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Hi Guys,
One of the primary reasons we quit using S-W / Martin-Senour products of
any kind is for that very reason. That and little or no support when we
had a bad batch of something.
As with most refinishing products, there IS a shelf-life of sorts
because of the different components in the product. Generally speaking
when you get splattering it's not due to temperature or humidity. It's
most often caused from incompatability of components ( i.e. wrong
thinner used), or a chemical seperation or curing of one or more of the
products components. Once either one happens there's nothing to do but
throw the stuff away. No amount of shaking or stirring will ever get it
back.
Case in point, Trunk Splatter Paint. The reason it splatters a colored
pattern on a black or gray field is the pattern material is generally
colored latex (water base) suspended in the primary material that is
black or gray enamel.
In the case of the primer, one or more components are not emulsifying in
the mixture for what ever reason. It's generally the age of the
product(s) if all the right additives and reducers are being used.
Our experience has been that S-W batches large quanities and then
warehouses it until it's sold. The stores then warehouse it until they
sell it. Your wash primer may have been a couple of years old before
you opened the lid.
Being that S-W is way to the back of the line as a producer / supplier
in these types of product lines, the products don't turn as fast as say
PPG, DuPont, or even Azco.
Just an Old Painters Experience....
Jim Duckett
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