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1. 06:57 AM - Re: Air Compressor & Tools (William King)
2. 08:21 AM - Re: Air Compressor & Tools (Herron, Al)
3. 08:40 AM - Re: Builders Log (George Neal E Capt AU/PC)
4. 10:17 AM - Re: Builders Log (Kathleen@rv7.us)
5. 10:41 AM - Re: Builders Log (Dwight Frye)
6. 11:08 AM - Left hand vs right hand (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 11:19 AM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (cary rhodes)
8. 11:40 AM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (DonVS)
9. 12:29 PM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
10. 01:12 PM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (Kathleen@rv7.us)
11. 02:26 PM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (Hull, Don)
12. 02:29 PM - Tire Change (John Brunke)
13. 03:05 PM - Re: Tire Change (Dan Checkoway)
14. 03:11 PM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (Dan Checkoway)
15. 03:57 PM - Re: Air Compressor & Tools (Chuck aka Charlie Imken)
16. 04:27 PM - SEC: UNCLASSIFIED : Left hand vs right hand (Francis, David CMDR)
17. 04:47 PM - Re: UNCLASSIFIED : Left hand vs right hand (David Figgins)
18. 07:31 PM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (Wayne Reese)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Compressor & Tools |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "William King" <bill@kane-king.com>
Scott
I didn't have a lot of money to spend so I bought the empennage toolkit from
cleveland and I like it. The only other thing you need with it is a squeezer
so I bought the Main Squeeze from Cleveland and it has also performed well.
I've never had any problems with their customer service.
You may want to purchase more clecos than the kit has.
I also bought the Avery Deburring tool.
(http://www.kane-king.com/rv7aproject/20040927.htm) <- this one. I highly
recommend it!
I just got a cheap Sears air compressor. It works just fine. I don't have
any tools that require a lot of air so it doesn't run that much.
Bill King
www.kane-king.com
>
> From: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
> Date: 2004/10/11 Mon PM 09:40:20 EDT
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: Air Compressor & Tools
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> I am forgoing building a Cozy MK-IV (maybe 2% done) for an RV-7A for too
> many reasons to list and I have a few questions for those willing to
> answer.
>
> 1) Which tool kit would you recommend? (i.e. Avery, Cleveland, etc.)
>
> 2) Would a 21 Gallon air compressor be adequate for the building process?
>
> Thanks in advance for your guidance.
>
> Scott Shook
> RV-7A (Order Form ready to fax to Vans.)
>
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| Subject: | Air Compressor & Tools |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Herron, Al" <Al.Herron@Aerojet.com>
A 21-gallon tank should do nicely - it's more a matter of how quickly the
compressor will recharge the tank and how long you're willing to wait for
that to happen. No problem for rivet guns and drills, might slow you down a
bit with a die grinder or paint gun.
I'd stick with your current compressor and save the money for other items
(like panel goodies). However, if you ever feel like you need a bigger
compressor, I bought a 60-gallon/5 HP Husky from Home Depot for about $400
and have been extremely pleased with it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Scott R. Shook
Subject: RV7-List: Air Compressor & Tools
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
Greetings everyone,
I am forgoing building a Cozy MK-IV (maybe 2% done) for an RV-7A for too
many reasons to list and I have a few questions for those willing to answer.
1) Which tool kit would you recommend? (i.e. Avery, Cleveland, etc.)
2) Would a 21 Gallon air compressor be adequate for the building process?
Thanks in advance for your guidance.
Scott Shook
RV-7A (Order Form ready to fax to Vans.)
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--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my progress
(and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In
the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had a
110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I track
time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no
reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour increments.
Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt
AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my progress
(and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In
the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had a
110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
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| Subject: | Re: Builders Log |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
I also just use a web site as my log (www.openweave.org/RV7). It is a bit of
homebrew code that I put together to serve it all up ... as opposed to any
sort of commercial or freeware package. One of my requirements was that I put
my log in a format that allowed me to easily generate a formatted and printed
version, and I can do that *fairly* easily with what I have put together.
I also just round .. but to the nearest 15 minutes. I agree that there is no
way to track it to the minute. As to the "if I could just find more time"
part of Kathleen's comments ... I couldn't agree more!
-- Dwight
On Tue Oct 12 13:13:32 2004, Kathleen@rv7.us wrote :
>
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
>My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I track
>time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no
>reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour increments.
>Now, if I could just find more time....
>
>Kathleen Evans
>www.rv7.us
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt
>AU/PC
>To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
>
>--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
><Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
>I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my progress
>(and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to
>make it better. And it's paid for.
>
>For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In
>the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
>tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
>looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had a
>110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
>switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
>
>Neal George
>RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>
>>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>>what you are using for a builders log.
>
>
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e
opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into
view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in
the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan
Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With
three levers though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting
chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily
functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a
crappy design that is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there
is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour
increments. Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not
smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty.
In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around,
called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and
web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I
called had a 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I
mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
frank
flying with the left hoof is really not much of a
transition.
you'll get comfortable with it in a hurry.
Personally I would go to all the complications of a
dual system.
Keep it simple, you'll be glad you did.
cary rhodes
--- "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com> wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George
> (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been
> done in my current
> zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two
> interconnected
> throttles, on the left for me and on the right for
> my PX.
>
> I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while
> trying to land from
> the right seat with about 70 hours of experience
> right after getting my
> ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right
> now, believe me you
> wouldn't be the first.
>
> Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed
> hands.
>
> So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick
> in left...i.e
> opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s
> concept is coming into
> view again.
>
> So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going
> for the throttle in
> the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand
> website master Dan
> Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the
> ugly side for me. With
> three levers though I'm not sure what else to do.
>
> The other issue is that I like to at least give my
> Wife a fighting
> chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of
> my vital bodily
> functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have
> on heart....What a
> crappy design that is....:)
>
> So that would mean at least a dual interconnected
> throttle, not easy
> unless you have a solid rod rather than cable
> throttles.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Frank
>
> P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn
> so could you please
> update your website?....:)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Kathleen@rv7.us
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
>
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> My website and a few other notes are all I do for a
> builder's log. I
> track time in the workshop as time on the project.
> Feeling that there
> is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I
> round to half hour
> increments. Now, if I could just find more time....
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of George Neal E
> Capt AU/PC
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt
> AU/PC
> <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> I use KitLog to manage the written record and
> relevant photos of my
> progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like
> it, but I'm not
> smart enough to
> make it better. And it's paid for.
>
> For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to
> add a little novelty.
> In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order,
> I looked around,
> called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed
> through catalogues and
> web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of
> the boat shops that I
> called had a 110v unit that was intended for a
> generator - $10. I
> mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized
> electrical box.
>
> Neal George
> RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>
> >I would like to find out how most of you are
> tracking your time and
> >what you are using for a builders log.
>
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Frank,
What you may not know is that Dan is a southpaw so he is naturally
handicapped<G> and can't fly using his left hand. He sure can build
airplanes and websites. Don BTW Dan if you caught my last web entry you
will see that I am even more handicapped!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e
opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into
view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in
the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan
Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With
three levers though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting
chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily
functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a
crappy design that is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there
is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour
increments. Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not
smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty.
In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around,
called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and
web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I
called had a 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I
mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Oh you mean you American's are not all the same?.....:)
Frank
From England or a Limey if you want to compliment my ancestors...:)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DonVS
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Frank,
What you may not know is that Dan is a southpaw so he is naturally
handicapped<G> and can't fly using his left hand. He sure can build
airplanes and websites. Don BTW Dan if you caught my last web entry
you will see that I am even more handicapped!!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e
opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into
view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in
the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan
Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With
three levers though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting
chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily
functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a
crappy design that is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there
is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour
increments. Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not
smart enough to make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty.
In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around,
called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and
web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I
called had a 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I
mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
==
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
Frank,
I have given this a lot of thought and don't think there is a right (:-)
correct) answer. I like the left-on-the-stick and right hand for throttle
work and radios arrangement. My husband likes to fly from the right seat
most of the time. When he flies solo, he uses the right seat except in the
Mooney which has no brakes on the right. In our situation, the normal
configuration works well.
Mostly, I believe that whatever you do, you should allow for flight from
either seat. 1) You never know what your future flight circumstance will be
and, 2) You may want to sell your plane some day.
I don't find any difference in flying left seat or right, but I like the
left seat with left hand on a stick or yoke, so that's going to be my
primary flight position. You really have to sit in an airplane and think
about what works for you. It's your airplane, YOU have to be comfortable.
No one can tell you which is best for you....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e
opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into
view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in
the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan
Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With
three levers though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting
chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily
functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a
crappy design that is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there
is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour
increments. Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not
smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty.
In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around,
called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and
web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I
called had a 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I
mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
I've heard both sides of this discussion several times, too. I'm right
handed and I prefer to fly the plane with the left hand so I can use my
RIGHT hand to adjust throttle, change radio frequencies, write clearances,
etc. Seems the same as a C-150 to me. When I flare in a C-150, I'm flying
the plane with my left hand and have the right hand at the ready on
throttle, flaps, etc. For me, flying from the right seat is awkward, NOT
from the left hand vs. right hand debate, but rather from the visual
appearance over the cowling. If I ever become an instructor, I'm told I
will get used to it.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen@rv7.us [mailto:Kathleen@rv7.us]
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
Frank,
I have given this a lot of thought and don't think there is a right (:-)
correct) answer. I like the left-on-the-stick and right hand for throttle
work and radios arrangement. My husband likes to fly from the right seat
most of the time. When he flies solo, he uses the right seat except in the
Mooney which has no brakes on the right. In our situation, the normal
configuration works well.
Mostly, I believe that whatever you do, you should allow for flight from
either seat. 1) You never know what your future flight circumstance will be
and, 2) You may want to sell your plane some day.
I don't find any difference in flying left seat or right, but I like the
left seat with left hand on a stick or yoke, so that's going to be my
primary flight position. You really have to sit in an airplane and think
about what works for you. It's your airplane, YOU have to be comfortable.
No one can tell you which is best for you....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from the
right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e opposite to
what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in the
left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan Checkoway did
it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With three levers
though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting chance to
walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily functions decide
to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a crappy design that
is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy unless
you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I track
time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no
reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour increments.
Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt
AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my progress
(and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In
the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had a
110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
==
==
==
==
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "John Brunke" <jwbrunk@attglobal.net>
I'm doing my first tire change on an RV-6 that I bought last year. (starting -7
tail kit this winter). I have one of Vans axle jacks that you slide the tire
onto to remove it.
Since the aircraft has wheel pants the hub nut is solid so I had to remove that
before I could install the jack.
My question: Can you intall the wheel, let the jack down and still get the correct
tork on the hub nut while the wheel is resting on the ground? Thanks in
advance.
John Brunke
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Yikes! Be careful -- wheel halves have been known to separate and kill
people. Or at least take out a chunk of skull. NEVER handle a wheel with
the tire inflated. Only inflate it once the wheel halves are captured with
the axle nut.
Now to answer your question...
You're supposed to hollow out the end of the axle nut and use a little steel
screw-on bracket for the wheel pant attach nutplate. Photos here:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030411.html (bottom of the page)
That way, the order is like this:
1) Remove the wheel pant
2) Remove the inner brake pad
3) Remove the attach bracket from the axle nut
4) Remove the cotter pin
5) Insert the jack stand
6) Jack it up
7) Deflate the tire (I completely remove the valve from the valve stem)
8) Remove the axle nut
9) Slide the wheel & nut off the axle
Installation is the reverse -- don't inflate the tire until the wheel halves
are captured by the axle nut!!!
Be careful,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Brunke" <jwbrunk@attglobal.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Tire Change
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "John Brunke" <jwbrunk@attglobal.net>
>
> I'm doing my first tire change on an RV-6 that I bought last year.
(starting -7 tail kit this winter). I have one of Vans axle jacks that you
slide the tire onto to remove it.
>
> Since the aircraft has wheel pants the hub nut is solid so I had to remove
that before I could install the jack.
>
> My question: Can you intall the wheel, let the jack down and still get
the correct tork on the hub nut while the wheel is resting on the ground?
Thanks in advance.
>
> John Brunke
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Aerobatics -- do your maneuvers to the left. Stick in right.
Formation -- throttle lever/quadrant, not friction control (DEFINITELY not
vernier).
Shoulder room.
Who cares about the passenger? He's lucky he has a stick (when I leave it
in) and some pedals, let alone brakes and a throttle. If somebody wants to
land your plane, pull the throttle on 'em. If they can't land without
power, they aren't landing my plane.
Handicap? I flew stick-in-left at first with Alex (training), and I hated
it. Fingers on a chalkboard comes to mind. After the first landing I got
out and flew from the right instead. It's not like I couldn't fly that way,
it's just unnatural for me. Southpaw or not, it went against a pattern that
had become very comfortable. My right arm is stronger, and I much prefer to
use that arm on the stick. When I do aerobatics, I'm happy that rolling to
the left is a push, not a pull.
Do it your way.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
>
> I've heard both sides of this discussion several times, too. I'm right
> handed and I prefer to fly the plane with the left hand so I can use my
> RIGHT hand to adjust throttle, change radio frequencies, write clearances,
> etc. Seems the same as a C-150 to me. When I flare in a C-150, I'm
flying
> the plane with my left hand and have the right hand at the ready on
> throttle, flaps, etc. For me, flying from the right seat is awkward, NOT
> from the left hand vs. right hand debate, but rather from the visual
> appearance over the cowling. If I ever become an instructor, I'm told I
> will get used to it.
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathleen@rv7.us [mailto:Kathleen@rv7.us]
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
>
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> Frank,
> I have given this a lot of thought and don't think there is a right (:-)
> correct) answer. I like the left-on-the-stick and right hand for throttle
> work and radios arrangement. My husband likes to fly from the right seat
> most of the time. When he flies solo, he uses the right seat except in
the
> Mooney which has no brakes on the right. In our situation, the normal
> configuration works well.
>
> Mostly, I believe that whatever you do, you should allow for flight from
> either seat. 1) You never know what your future flight circumstance will
be
> and, 2) You may want to sell your plane some day.
>
> I don't find any difference in flying left seat or right, but I like the
> left seat with left hand on a stick or yoke, so that's going to be my
> primary flight position. You really have to sit in an airplane and think
> about what works for you. It's your airplane, YOU have to be comfortable.
> No one can tell you which is best for you....
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
> George (Corvallis)
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
> zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
> throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
>
> I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the
> right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
> ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
> wouldn't be the first.
>
> Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
>
> So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e opposite
to
> what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into view again.
>
> So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in the
> left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan Checkoway
did
> it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With three levers
> though I'm not sure what else to do.
>
> The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting chance
to
> walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily functions decide
> to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a crappy design that
> is....:)
>
> So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless
> you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Frank
>
> P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
> update your website?....:)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen@rv7.us
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
>
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
>
> My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track
> time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no
> reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour increments.
> Now, if I could just find more time....
>
> Kathleen Evans
> www.rv7.us
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt
> AU/PC
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
> <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress
> (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to
> make it better. And it's paid for.
>
> For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In
> the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
> tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
> looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had
a
> 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
> switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
>
> Neal George
> RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>
> >I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
> >what you are using for a builders log.
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Compressor & Tools |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Chuck aka Charlie Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
Scott,
I gave up on a Cozy MK-IV for a 7A also. After flying RV's a few times, I
now realize it was one of the best decisions I ever made. I got my tool kit
from Avery. It is enough to get you started but then buying a band saw
later from Harbor Freight might help make small parts faster than a hacksaw.
A 21 gal air compressor is adequate. Mine is a 17 gal. It still works and
my airframe is complete. When cutting the Plexiglas for the canopy, I did
have to wait a few times between cuts to let the pressure rebuild....but no
real problem though.
Chuck Imken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Air Compressor & Tools
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> I am forgoing building a Cozy MK-IV (maybe 2% done) for an RV-7A for too
> many reasons to list and I have a few questions for those willing to
answer.
>
> 1) Which tool kit would you recommend? (i.e. Avery, Cleveland, etc.)
>
> 2) Would a 21 Gallon air compressor be adequate for the building process?
>
> Thanks in advance for your guidance.
>
> Scott Shook
> RV-7A (Order Form ready to fax to Vans.)
>
>
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| Subject: | Left hand vs right hand |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Francis, David CMDR" <David.Francis@defence.gov.au>
Flying with stick in left or right hand is purely a matter of personal
preference. The joy of homebuilding is that you can customise your creation.
My choice is right handed sticks and two left handed throttles. Here is how
it will be done:
Throttle quadrant on left hand of P1. The ideal position for a hand control
is 3 inches aft of the knee, at thigh height. So my quadrant will be cut
into the armrest. The quadrant will be a 3 lever deal.
To keep the dual throttle arrangement simple the centre throttle will be a
simple push/pull deal. Both throttle cables will join at the carby, again to
keep it simple and minimise friction.
Have fun arguing about it, just remember that every home builder is right.
David Francis, Canberra, Australia
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "David Figgins" <2004nospam@earthlink.net>
Interesting approach as this is one of the issues on my "things to sort out
list" and I am a long way from the fuselage (wings on order) on my RV-7A. I
recall when I did aerobatic training a long time ago that the Great Lakes
(throttle on left, stick in right hand) felt much more comfortable than
Aerobat (wheel in left, throttle on right). I do plan to have my wife learn
to fly or at least land (used to be a EAA program that focused on spouse
ability to land in emergencies) in the event that I become incapacitated for
any reason and this would seem to address both requirements. Do you have
pictures of your setup?
Dave Figgins RV-7a empennage
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francis, David
CMDR
Subject: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED : RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Francis, David CMDR"
--> <David.Francis@defence.gov.au>
Flying with stick in left or right hand is purely a matter of personal
preference. The joy of homebuilding is that you can customise your creation.
My choice is right handed sticks and two left handed throttles. Here is how
it will be done:
Throttle quadrant on left hand of P1. The ideal position for a hand control
is 3 inches aft of the knee, at thigh height. So my quadrant will be cut
into the armrest. The quadrant will be a 3 lever deal.
To keep the dual throttle arrangement simple the centre throttle will be a
simple push/pull deal. Both throttle cables will join at the carby, again to
keep it simple and minimise friction.
Have fun arguing about it, just remember that every home builder is right.
David Francis, Canberra, Australia
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Wayne Reese" <waynereese@qwest.net>
A year or so ago a passed the email address of John Hafen (Major
General) along to someone here because he installed two throttle
controls. It is unnerving to be in the right seat and watch the
throttle move without seeing any hand on it.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hull, Don
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
I've heard both sides of this discussion several times, too. I'm right
handed and I prefer to fly the plane with the left hand so I can use my
RIGHT hand to adjust throttle, change radio frequencies, write
clearances,
etc. Seems the same as a C-150 to me. When I flare in a C-150, I'm
flying
the plane with my left hand and have the right hand at the ready on
throttle, flaps, etc. For me, flying from the right seat is awkward,
NOT
from the left hand vs. right hand debate, but rather from the visual
appearance over the cowling. If I ever become an instructor, I'm told I
will get used to it.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen@rv7.us [mailto:Kathleen@rv7.us]
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
Frank,
I have given this a lot of thought and don't think there is a right (:-)
correct) answer. I like the left-on-the-stick and right hand for
throttle
work and radios arrangement. My husband likes to fly from the right
seat
most of the time. When he flies solo, he uses the right seat except in
the
Mooney which has no brakes on the right. In our situation, the normal
configuration works well.
Mostly, I believe that whatever you do, you should allow for flight from
either seat. 1) You never know what your future flight circumstance
will be
and, 2) You may want to sell your plane some day.
I don't find any difference in flying left seat or right, but I like the
left seat with left hand on a stick or yoke, so that's going to be my
primary flight position. You really have to sit in an airplane and
think
about what works for you. It's your airplane, YOU have to be
comfortable.
No one can tell you which is best for you....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hi all,
I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current
zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected
throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX.
I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from
the
right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my
ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you
wouldn't be the first.
Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands.
So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e
opposite to
what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into view again.
So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in
the
left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan Checkoway
did
it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With three levers
though I'm not sure what else to do.
The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting
chance to
walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily functions
decide
to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a crappy design that
is....:)
So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy
unless
you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles.
Any thoughts?
Frank
P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please
update your website?....:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kathleen@rv7.us
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us
My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I
track
time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no
reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour
increments.
Now, if I could just find more time....
Kathleen Evans
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E
Capt
AU/PC
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log
--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC
<Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my
progress
(and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough
to
make it better. And it's paid for.
For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty.
In
the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called
tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites
looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called
had a
110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a
switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box.
Neal George
RV-7 N8ZG, wings
>I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and
>what you are using for a builders log.
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