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Wed 10/13/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:49 AM - Re: Tire Change (cary rhodes)
     2. 04:49 AM - Re: Left hand vs right hand (George Wiley)
     3. 01:19 PM - RV7 primer primer (Bellwa77@AOL.com)
     4. 02:00 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Richard Tasker)
     5. 02:05 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Bob Smith)
     6. 02:15 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (George Neal E Capt AU/PC)
     7. 08:37 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Brian Meyette)
     8. 09:42 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Tim Coldenhoff)
     9. 09:58 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Richard E. Tasker)
    10. 10:34 PM - Re: RV7 primer primer (Brian Meyette)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:49:44 AM PST US
    From: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Tire Change
    --> RV7-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com> john torque is probably not going to be an issue. The axle is drilled with the nut to accept a cotter pin. You will have to hunt the hole to line up with the matching hole in the cap nut. certified planes ususlly have multiple locations to place the cotter pin, ie castle nut or threaded ring, but the rv is custom drilled only in one position. keep the left and right nut separate so they go back on the same axle. cary rhodes --- John Brunke <jwbrunk@attglobal.net> wrote: > --> RV7-List message posted by: "John Brunke" > <jwbrunk@attglobal.net> > > I'm doing my first tire change on an RV-6 that I > bought last year. (starting -7 tail kit this > winter). I have one of Vans axle jacks that you > slide the tire onto to remove it. > > Since the aircraft has wheel pants the hub nut is > solid so I had to remove that before I could install > the jack. > > My question: Can you intall the wheel, let the jack > down and still get the correct tork on the hub nut > while the wheel is resting on the ground? Thanks in > advance. > > John Brunke > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/chat > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV7-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________


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    Time: 04:49:57 AM PST US
    From: "George Wiley" <geowiley@ussonet.net>
    Subject: Left hand vs right hand
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "George Wiley" <geowiley@ussonet.net> Please remove me from the RV7 mailing list. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen@rv7.us Subject: RE: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand --> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us Frank, I have given this a lot of thought and don't think there is a right (:-) correct) answer. I like the left-on-the-stick and right hand for throttle work and radios arrangement. My husband likes to fly from the right seat most of the time. When he flies solo, he uses the right seat except in the Mooney which has no brakes on the right. In our situation, the normal configuration works well. Mostly, I believe that whatever you do, you should allow for flight from either seat. 1) You never know what your future flight circumstance will be and, 2) You may want to sell your plane some day. I don't find any difference in flying left seat or right, but I like the left seat with left hand on a stick or yoke, so that's going to be my primary flight position. You really have to sit in an airplane and think about what works for you. It's your airplane, YOU have to be comfortable. No one can tell you which is best for you.... Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) Subject: RV7-List: Left hand vs right hand --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Hi all, I have about 450 hours TT and most of that has been done in my current zenair zodiac with a center stick. Hence it has two interconnected throttles, on the left for me and on the right for my PX. I had rather nasty incident (crash) in a C152 while trying to land from the right seat with about 70 hours of experience right after getting my ticket.....If your saying dumba*s in your head right now, believe me you wouldn't be the first. Most of the crash was caused by the fact I changed hands. So of course, the RV7a is throttle in RH and stick in left...i.e opposite to what I fly now.....hmm... The dumba*s concept is coming into view again. So I wondered what you all thought of maybe going for the throttle in the left and RH on the stick. I note that grand website master Dan Checkoway did it but the quadrant is a bit on the ugly side for me. With three levers though I'm not sure what else to do. The other issue is that I like to at least give my Wife a fighting chance to walk away from the wreckage should any of my vital bodily functions decide to fail...Apparently we only have on heart....What a crappy design that is....:) So that would mean at least a dual interconnected throttle, not easy unless you have a solid rod rather than cable throttles. Any thoughts? Frank P.s, Dan my lunchtime reading has taken a downturn so could you please update your website?....:) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kathleen@rv7.us Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log --> RV7-List message posted by: Kathleen@rv7.us My website and a few other notes are all I do for a builder's log. I track time in the workshop as time on the project. Feeling that there is no reasonable way to track it to the minute, I round to half hour increments. Now, if I could just find more time.... Kathleen Evans www.rv7.us -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt AU/PC Subject: RE: RV7-List: Builders Log --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> I use KitLog to manage the written record and relevant photos of my progress (and mistakes). I don't particularly like it, but I'm not smart enough to make it better. And it's paid for. For keeping track of time, I use a Hobbs meter to add a little novelty. In the months leading up to my first sub-kit order, I looked around, called tractor dealers, marine dealers, leafed through catalogues and web sites looking for an inexpensive unit. One of the boat shops that I called had a 110v unit that was intended for a generator - $10. I mounted it and a switch in a 4" galvanized electrical box. Neal George RV-7 N8ZG, wings >I would like to find out how most of you are tracking your time and >what you are using for a builders log. == == == == == == == ==


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    Time: 01:19:16 PM PST US
    From: Bellwa77@AOL.com
    Subject: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: Bellwa77@aol.com Hello everyone, I just ordered the tail kit, all the Avery tools, air compressor, a bunch of stuff from harbour freight and signed up for the RV Assembly Sport Air workshop. I have been overseas in the Middle East for the past 12 years following this email list and watching everyones progress on the web, especially Dan Chekoway's fantastic and detailed site. I pretty much went to his tools section and oordered everything he had described there. The last decision to make before beginning is primer. At the risk of irritating eveyone with my first email, I am going to ask a primer question. Before everybody flames me, I will tell you that I have done an extensive search of the matronics list and read as much as I could find about priming all over the web. Doing that actually confused me more. What I would like is to gather is as much opinion as possible on AFS waterborne primer/sealer. There was very little information in the list and almost none on the web with the exception of the AFS website itself and Andy Karmy's RV9 website and an article he wrote for EAA. So flame me if you must but opinions would be appreciated. Andy Bell RV7 or 7A bellwa77@aol.com


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    Time: 02:00:24 PM PST US
    From: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net> I have used the AFS primer on my RV9A (not flying yet). It goes on quite nicely and bonds tenaciously to the aluminum. I frequently paint the parts first and then dimple - the paint takes the dimpling without a whimper. I can't vouch for its long term performance - you will have to look at their website for that information, although the parts I painted almost two years ago look just like they did when first painted. The really nice thing about it is that it is water based so the cleanup is easy and there is no bad smell or dangerous fumes. Dick Tasker Bellwa77@AOL.com wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: Bellwa77@aol.com > >Hello everyone, > >I just ordered the tail kit, all the Avery tools, air compressor, a bunch of >stuff from harbour freight and signed up for the RV Assembly Sport Air >workshop. I have been overseas in the Middle East for the past 12 years following >this email list and watching everyones progress on the web, especially Dan >Chekoway's fantastic and detailed site. I pretty much went to his tools section and >oordered everything he had described there. The last decision to make before >beginning is primer. > >At the risk of irritating eveyone with my first email, I am going to ask a >primer question. Before everybody flames me, I will tell you that I have done an >extensive search of the matronics list and read as much as I could find about >priming all over the web. Doing that actually confused me more. What I would >like is to gather is as much opinion as possible on AFS waterborne >primer/sealer. There was very little information in the list and almost none on the web >with the exception of the AFS website itself and Andy Karmy's RV9 website and >an article he wrote for EAA. So flame me if you must but opinions would be >appreciated. > >Andy Bell >RV7 or 7A >bellwa77@aol.com > > > >


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    Time: 02:05:24 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Smith" <rvator@lindonnet.com>
    Subject: RV7 primer primer
    15:05:15, Serialize by Router on slcnot1/SCT(Release 6.0.4|June 01, 2004) at 10/13/2004 15:05:17, Serialize complete at 10/13/2004 15:05:17, Itemize by SMTP Server on sctmnot9/SCT(Release 6.0.4|June 01, 2004) at 10/13/2004 17:05:17, Serialize by Router on sctmnot9/SCT(Release 6.0.4|June 01, 2004) at 10/13/2004 17:05:17, Serialize complete at 10/13/2004 17:05:17 --> RV7-List message posted by: "Bob Smith" <rvator@lindonnet.com> I'm using AFS primer on my empennage kit and have been quite happy with it. I don't think it is quite as tough as 2-part epoxy, but it is wonderful to use. Water clean-up and no noxious fumes. It sprays quite well - I've been using a Harbor Freight HPLV touch-up gun, and use it straight out of the jar. No complaints. Bob Smith -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bellwa77@AOL.com Subject: RV7-List: RV7 primer primer --> RV7-List message posted by: Bellwa77@aol.com Hello everyone, I just ordered the tail kit, all the Avery tools, air compressor, a bunch of stuff from harbour freight and signed up for the RV Assembly Sport Air workshop. I have been overseas in the Middle East for the past 12 years following this email list and watching everyones progress on the web, especially Dan Chekoway's fantastic and detailed site. I pretty much went to his tools section and oordered everything he had described there. The last decision to make before beginning is primer. At the risk of irritating eveyone with my first email, I am going to ask a primer question. Before everybody flames me, I will tell you that I have done an extensive search of the matronics list and read as much as I could find about priming all over the web. Doing that actually confused me more. What I would like is to gather is as much opinion as possible on AFS waterborne primer/sealer. There was very little information in the list and almost none on the web with the exception of the AFS website itself and Andy Karmy's RV9 website and an article he wrote for EAA. So flame me if you must but opinions would be appreciated. Andy Bell RV7 or 7A bellwa77@aol.com


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    Time: 02:15:21 PM PST US
    From: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@maxwell.af.mil>
    Subject: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> Welcome Andy My tail has an assortment of SW-988 (expensive garbage), Rustoleum (what was I thinking) and VeriPrime (good stuff, but needs a topcoat). Were I to start over, I'd use AFS to prime the contact points where dissimilar metals meet and alodine the extruded parts. Leave the rest of it as-is. The other primers are all great as an integral part of their respective finishing systems, but according to all the literature and sales reps, offer no moisture barrier - they are intended to be top-coated. Without a top-coat they are porous and would actually attract and wick moisture and the stuff dissolved in it. I used screws and nutplates to mount my fiberglass tips. I still don't like the idea of using pop rivets. After the plane is painted I will treat it with Corrosion-X. Can't do that with the tips on. Neal RV-7 N8ZG Wings - and short on clecos


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    Time: 08:37:52 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
    Subject: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> What exactly is the AFS the last 3 messages referred to? brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt AU/PC Subject: RE: RV7-List: RV7 primer primer --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> Welcome Andy My tail has an assortment of SW-988 (expensive garbage), Rustoleum (what was I thinking) and VeriPrime (good stuff, but needs a topcoat). Were I to start over, I'd use AFS to prime the contact points where dissimilar metals meet and alodine the extruded parts. Leave the rest of it as-is. The other primers are all great as an integral part of their respective finishing systems, but according to all the literature and sales reps, offer no moisture barrier - they are intended to be top-coated. Without a top-coat they are porous and would actually attract and wick moisture and the stuff dissolved in it. I used screws and nutplates to mount my fiberglass tips. I still don't like the idea of using pop rivets. After the plane is painted I will treat it with Corrosion-X. Can't do that with the tips on. Neal RV-7 N8ZG Wings - and short on clecos --- ---


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    Time: 09:42:55 PM PST US
    From: Tim Coldenhoff <rv9a_000@deru.com>
    Subject: Re: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: Tim Coldenhoff <rv9a_000@deru.com> Brian Meyette wrote: > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" > > What exactly is the AFS the last 3 messages referred to? Aircraft Finishing Systems: http://www.aircraftfinishing.com They manufacture and sell water based polyurethane paints. -- Tim Coldenhoff #90338 - Finishing! http://rv9a.deru.com


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    Time: 09:58:20 PM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> http://www.aircraftfinishing.com/ Dick Tasker Brian Meyette wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> > >What exactly is the AFS the last 3 messages referred to? >brian > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt >AU/PC >To: rv7-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV7-List: RV7 primer primer > >--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC ><Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> > >Welcome Andy > >My tail has an assortment of SW-988 (expensive garbage), Rustoleum (what was >I thinking) and VeriPrime (good stuff, but needs a topcoat). > >Were I to start over, I'd use AFS to prime the contact points where >dissimilar metals meet and alodine the extruded parts. Leave the rest of it >as-is. The other primers are all great as an integral part of their >respective finishing systems, but according to all the literature and sales >reps, offer no moisture barrier - they are intended to be top-coated. >Without a top-coat they are porous and would actually attract and wick >moisture and the stuff dissolved in it. > >I used screws and nutplates to mount my fiberglass tips. I still don't like >the idea of using pop rivets. After the plane is painted I will treat it >with Corrosion-X. Can't do that with the tips on. > >Neal >RV-7 N8ZG >Wings - and short on clecos > > >--- > >--- > > > >


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    Time: 10:34:58 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
    Subject: RV7 primer primer
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> Thanks, Dick! I believe you were working on an alternative electrical system for the Eggenfellner engines. How is that coming along? brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard E. Tasker Subject: Re: RV7-List: RV7 primer primer --> RV7-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> http://www.aircraftfinishing.com/ Dick Tasker Brian Meyette wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> > >What exactly is the AFS the last 3 messages referred to? >brian > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of George Neal E Capt >AU/PC >To: rv7-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV7-List: RV7 primer primer > >--> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/PC ><Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> > >Welcome Andy > >My tail has an assortment of SW-988 (expensive garbage), Rustoleum (what was >I thinking) and VeriPrime (good stuff, but needs a topcoat). > >Were I to start over, I'd use AFS to prime the contact points where >dissimilar metals meet and alodine the extruded parts. Leave the rest of it >as-is. The other primers are all great as an integral part of their >respective finishing systems, but according to all the literature and sales >reps, offer no moisture barrier - they are intended to be top-coated. >Without a top-coat they are porous and would actually attract and wick >moisture and the stuff dissolved in it. > >I used screws and nutplates to mount my fiberglass tips. I still don't like >the idea of using pop rivets. After the plane is painted I will treat it >with Corrosion-X. Can't do that with the tips on. > >Neal >RV-7 N8ZG >Wings - and short on clecos > > >--- > >--- > > --- ---




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