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1. 04:29 AM - Re: lights (LarryRobertHelming)
2. 10:22 AM - Re: lights (Chuck aka Charlie Imken)
3. 12:25 PM - Re: RV7-No jig for the tail!!! (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
4. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: RV7-No jig for the tail!!! (Chuck aka Charlie Imken)
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I think everyone is concerned about cutting any hole in a perfectly good
wing, quick build or slowwwww. For that reason, I recommend you do NOT as I
did it with Duckworks. If I were doing it again, I would install all my
lights in the wing tip and leave the perfectly good leading edge of my wing
in perfect condition. For a very good low cost example, you could look at
the pictures provided by Vince Fraizer. By the way, Vince's Rocket is now
flying.
((... scroll clear to the bottom and look at the wingtip lights section.
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/Construction%20Notes%20for%20the%20tail%20and%20wings.htm
you may need to paste the long link back
together in your browser. If that won't work click on the URL below and
then go to the Wings and Tail section.
Vince Frazier
812-985-7309 home
812-464-1839 work
Stinson 108, NC97535 flying
F-1H Rocket, N540VF reserved
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html ))
Larry
> I can understand quickbuild folks being nervous about cutting a hole in
the
> leading edge of a completed wing. But if you are building your wing from
> scratch, it costs only about 65 or 70 dollars for a new skin and ribs for
> the leading edge should you screw it up. Don't ask me how I know this.
>
> > I believe the correct website is www.creativair.com.
> >
> > The positives of Bill's halogen landing lights are that they are
> reasonably
> > bright and very light weight. They do draw a fair amount of amperage
and
> > make a lot of heat, but what bright lights don't? I have installed a
pair
> > of them....
> >
> >
> > I have been researching this for a while, the best bet is Bill
> > Vondane (might be misspelled) at www.creativeair.com, hands down because
I
> > refuse to cut into the leading edge when it looks so good..
> >
> > > Whose Landing lights are you referring to? I need to settle on a
> > > landing / position light setup (without cutting into the wing leading
> > > edge).
> > > So far I have installed three sets in customers RVs and they have no
> > > complaints. The light they project is better then the wing mounted
from
> > > the
> > > kit manufacturer. I am about to install the LED setup next and looking
> > > forward to it.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I ordered the two kits and they are due to show up at my door today.
> > > I
> > >> will let you know how look. The owner (Bill Vondane has been busy in
> > > his
> > >> other profession (Like all of us) and it took a couple emails to get
> > > it
> > >> shipped, but he seems like a very nice and accommodating person. I
am
> > >> looking forward to receiving and installing the kits.
> > >>
> > >> > Does anyone have any comments (pro or con) on the CreativAir
> > >> > position/landing lights?
> > >> >
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Chuck aka Charlie Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
Duckworks lights are great and were a breeze to install on my slow build.
I did not wait until the wings were finished to cut the holes. I did it as
soon as I had each leading edge skin riveted to the ribs--very easy to cut
and install at that point. Those can be focused easier and better than wing
tip lights and have no heat problems.
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Subject: Re: RV7-List: lights
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming"
<lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> I think everyone is concerned about cutting any hole in a perfectly good
> wing, quick build or slowwwww. For that reason, I recommend you do NOT as
I
> did it with Duckworks. If I were doing it again, I would install all my
> lights in the wing tip and leave the perfectly good leading edge of my
wing
> in perfect condition. For a very good low cost example, you could look at
> the pictures provided by Vince Fraizer. By the way, Vince's Rocket is now
> flying.
>
> ((... scroll clear to the bottom and look at the wingtip lights section.
>
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/Construction%20Notes%20for%20the%20tail%20and%20wings.htm
> you may need to paste the long link back
> together in your browser. If that won't work click on the URL below and
> then go to the Wings and Tail section.
>
> Vince Frazier
> 812-985-7309 home
> 812-464-1839 work
> Stinson 108, NC97535 flying
> F-1H Rocket, N540VF reserved
> http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html ))
>
> Larry
>
> > I can understand quickbuild folks being nervous about cutting a hole in
> the
> > leading edge of a completed wing. But if you are building your wing
from
> > scratch, it costs only about 65 or 70 dollars for a new skin and ribs
for
> > the leading edge should you screw it up. Don't ask me how I know this.
> >
> > > I believe the correct website is www.creativair.com.
> > >
> > > The positives of Bill's halogen landing lights are that they are
> > reasonably
> > > bright and very light weight. They do draw a fair amount of amperage
> and
> > > make a lot of heat, but what bright lights don't? I have installed a
> pair
> > > of them....
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been researching this for a while, the best bet is
Bill
> > > Vondane (might be misspelled) at www.creativeair.com, hands down
because
> I
> > > refuse to cut into the leading edge when it looks so good..
> > >
> > > > Whose Landing lights are you referring to? I need to settle on a
> > > > landing / position light setup (without cutting into the wing
leading
> > > > edge).
> > > > So far I have installed three sets in customers RVs and they have no
> > > > complaints. The light they project is better then the wing mounted
> from
> > > > the
> > > > kit manufacturer. I am about to install the LED setup next and
looking
> > > > forward to it.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I ordered the two kits and they are due to show up at my door
today.
> > > > I
> > > >> will let you know how look. The owner (Bill Vondane has been busy
in
> > > > his
> > > >> other profession (Like all of us) and it took a couple emails to
get
> > > > it
> > > >> shipped, but he seems like a very nice and accommodating person. I
> am
> > > >> looking forward to receiving and installing the kits.
> > > >>
> > > >> > Does anyone have any comments (pro or con) on the CreativAir
> > > >> > position/landing lights?
> > > >> >
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: RV7-No jig for the tail!!! |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Very good news from Van's. I asked them about the need for the extensive
jig that builders have been using for the tail kits.
Probably 15 hours saved right there!
--Original Message-----
From: Bruce Reynolds [mailto:brucer@vansaircraft.com]
Subject: Re: 71965..First question, RV 7
Frank,
You are the recipient of modern technology. The prepunched tail
kits need no jigs. Just follow the instructions in the manual.
Bruce Reynolds
brucer@vansaircraft.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV7-No jig for the tail!!! |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Chuck aka Charlie Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
Frank,........more very good news. You won't need jigs for the wings or
fuselage either even if you build the slow-build kits.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Subject: RV7-List: RE: RV7-No jig for the tail!!!
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>
> Very good news from Van's. I asked them about the need for the extensive
> jig that builders have been using for the tail kits.
>
> Probably 15 hours saved right there!
>
>
> --Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Reynolds [mailto:brucer@vansaircraft.com]
> To: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
> Subject: Re: 71965..First question, RV 7
>
>
> Frank,
>
> You are the recipient of modern technology. The prepunched tail
> kits need no jigs. Just follow the instructions in the manual.
>
>
> Bruce Reynolds
> brucer@vansaircraft.com
>
>
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