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Thu 05/26/05


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 03:30 PM - Re: wire gauge drill bits (Brian Meyette)
     2. 03:34 PM - Re: wire gauge drill bits (Brian Meyette)
     3. 03:36 PM - Re: wire gauge drill bits (Brian Meyette)
     4. 04:46 PM - Re: wire gauge drill bits (Mark Grieve)
     5. 07:26 PM - Re: flop tuge Qbuild (B Tomm)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:30:20 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
    Subject: wire gauge drill bits
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on hestia --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> I bought one of those cheap crappy Chinese drill bit sets once. It's a big waste of time & money. Anything under $100 is Chinese and thus crap. Many of the larger drill bits are not even straight. The smaller ones have varying degrees of sharpness. If you're going to get a full drill bit set, get a US made one from MSC. You'll spend a couple hundred on a decent one, but you'll have something that's worth your money.. If you just want a few sizes for the plane, like 12 & 19, your best bet is get them from Avery. They have good US-made ones. The price of the Sears one tells me it might be US made, but be sure to check first - Sears tools are DEFINTELY not what they once were. brian http://brian76.mystarband.net/RV-7Ahome.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Hall Subject: RV7-List: wire gauge drill bits --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net> I bought a "rv empennage tool kit", which supposedly has all you *need* to build the tail. (Like all you need to build a house is a hammer and saw.) I was pretty disappointed with the kit when I immediately ran into instructions calling for #12 and #19 drill bits. Not in the kit, and apparently not at your average hardware store. I'm curious whether anyone is knows if any brick and mortar hardware stores sell drill bits in wire gauge sizes. I was surprised that Home Depot didn't stock such bits. I ended up ordering online from Cummins. I've already ordered this: http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,621.html $49.99 USD / Each 115pc High Speed Steel Titanium Coated Drill Bit Set Power Tools / Drills / Drill Bits & Accessories High speed titanium coated drill bits 60 pc. wire guage bits numbered 1 to 60 26 pc. lettered bits (A-Z) 29 pc. fractional bits 1/16" to 1/2" in 1/64" increments One metal index box Interestingly, Sears had this http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&p id=00967115000 $219.99 Craftsman 115 pc. Drill Bit Set, High Speed Steel, Black Oxide Twist Sears item #00967115000 Mfr. model #67115 These high speed steel bits are hardened, heat-treated and tempered for long-lasting strength. Precision-ground process ensures accurate geometry and hole size, and fast material removal. Learn more -- --


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    Time: 03:34:18 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
    Subject: wire gauge drill bits
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on hestia --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> I bought one of those, too, but then I realized it's better to drill smaller and use a reamer for the final exact size. MSC has reamers of every imaginable diameter, as well as super-fast delivery and excellent customer service. http://www1.mscdirect.com/cgi/nnsrhm brian http://brian76.mystarband.net/RV-7Ahome.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of GMC Subject: Re: RV7-List: wire gauge drill bits --> RV7-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca> Bob Collins wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> > >Find a hardware store that serves contractors (especially electrical) and >construction folks and they will have the drill bits. > > One last point on drill sizes - the plans call-out for a .311 drill bit to match drill the gear legs to the gear mount box on my RV7A did not show up on any of my conversion charts and that size turned out to be a custom Metric drill bit size 7.9MM. Cost me $8 Canadian from industrial supply place to make those holes 1.5 thousands smaller than the optional 5/16 size. Cheers, George in Langley BC -- --


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    Time: 03:36:25 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
    Subject: wire gauge drill bits
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on andromeda --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net> Did you use Harbor Freight drill bits to do it? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) Subject: RE: RV7-List: wire gauge drill bits --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> I bought a bunch of #30 and #40bits from the one of the large internet dealers (work out to about a buck per bit with shipping) and the Harbor Freight 115 pc set for all the other sizes. Incidently...Am I the only one that went thru about 4 bits to drill the holes in the axles for the cotter pins? Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Subject: RE: RV7-List: wire gauge drill bits --> RV7-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> Find a hardware store that serves contractors (especially electrical) and construction folks and they will have the drill bits. > I'm curious whether anyone is knows if any brick and mortar hardware stores > sell drill bits in wire gauge sizes. I was surprised that Home Depot didn't > stock such bits. I ended up ordering online from Cummins. -- --


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    Time: 04:46:43 PM PST US
    From: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
    Subject: Re: wire gauge drill bits
    --> RV7-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> Titanium bits are gold colored and very pretty. They have a titanium nitrite (nitrate? something like that) coating that has nonstick properties. When you replace bits, don't bother buying the titanium bits for smaller diameters. Just buy standard bits and save money. The titanium coating reduces wear and I tend to break bits that small before wearing them out. Too bad we don't have Costco in the midwest, I would grab one of these sets. MG Herron, Al wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Herron, Al" <Al.Herron@Aerojet.com> > >I picked up a set of numbered drill bits from Costco recently (this was in >Northern California) for about $40 US. Size ranged from very small (#60?) >up to about 1/2-inch in single-number increments, came in a nice metal case >with all the bits labeled both in index numbers and decimal equivalents. >Packaging claimed to be titanium bits, I was skeptical at that price but >they turned out to be very nice bits. The box alone was probably worth the >price. > >


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    Time: 07:26:21 PM PST US
    From: B Tomm <fvalarm@rapidnet.net>
    Subject: flop tuge Qbuild
    --> RV7-List message posted by: B Tomm <fvalarm@rapidnet.net> I seem to remember that the plans say to plug the hole BUT I also seem to remember someone recently saying that Van's had said not to block the hole because it will make filling the tank very slow. I don't know but if I were to do it again, I think I would block the hole and enlarge/make a new hole for air higher up the rib. When I did mine, I put in the flapper valve and left the hole alone. Now that I think about it, I think I made that decision based on discussions with someone at Vans. I'm not planning for aerobatics and didn't put the flop tube in, just the flappers because I like to slip on short final. Not flying yet so YMMV. Bevan -----Original Message----- From: flutewitch [SMTP:flutewitch@cox.net] Subject: RV7-List: flop tuge Qbuild --> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net> When installing the trap door in the aft rib of the left fuel tank Does the lightning hole in the rib also need to be plugged? It seems to me that if you were flying on a knife edge left wing down that the trap door would do no good if the other hole remained open. Also any recommendations on wing tip landing light, nav and strobe configuration would be a big help? Thanks Bill RV-7 Quick build Massachusetts




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