---------------------------------------------------------- RV7-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/15/05: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:28 AM - Re: elevator counterbalance (Dan Checkoway) 2. 12:42 AM - Duplicate messages (Wayne Glasser) 3. 04:15 AM - Re: elevator counterbalance () 4. 04:34 AM - Re: elevator counterbalance (Don Patterson) 5. 06:06 AM - Re: elevator counterbalance (George Neal E Capt AU/XPRR) 6. 06:14 AM - Fitting the firewall recess (David E. Nelson) 7. 06:57 AM - Re: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM (Walter Tondu) 8. 07:10 AM - Re: elevator counterbalance (Norman Younie) 9. 07:47 AM - Re: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM (Brian Meyette) 10. 06:28 PM - Re: Dimple Problem (William Near) 11. 06:30 PM - Re: elevator counterbalance (Daniel Storer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:52 AM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" You can use a chisel on lead. Sometimes even a razor blade. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hall" Subject: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" > > > The plans call for a section of the counterbalance to be cut out. It was > fun enough just drilling holes in lead. My bandsaw wasn't enjoying the job > too much, but I suppose it'll work if I keep at it. But I wonder if there > is an easier way... Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section of > lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:42 AM PST US From: "Wayne Glasser" Subject: RV7-List: Duplicate messages --> RV7-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" Is anyone else getting duplicate messages from this list? I started receiving them about a week ago. Thanks Wayne ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:14 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: put a wood cutting blade on your band saw and it will cut the lead quick and easy if you let it get hot it will be harder to work with so do a little at the time.Same with drilling a little at the time.If it was easy it would not be as much fun. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hall" Subject: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" > > > The plans call for a section of the counterbalance to be cut out. It was > fun enough just drilling holes in lead. My bandsaw wasn't enjoying the > job > too much, but I suppose it'll work if I keep at it. But I wonder if there > is an easier way... Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section > of > lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:29 AM PST US From: "Don Patterson" Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Patterson" I used a band saw but used some lube on the blade. Watch how much you remove... I followed the print and found later that I needed to add more lead. Don Patterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > > You can use a chisel on lead. Sometimes even a razor blade. > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Hall" > To: > Subject: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > > > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" > > > > > > The plans call for a section of the counterbalance to be cut out. It was > > fun enough just drilling holes in lead. My bandsaw wasn't enjoying the > job > > too much, but I suppose it'll work if I keep at it. But I wonder if there > > is an easier way... Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section > of > > lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:23 AM PST US From: George Neal E Capt AU/XPRR Subject: RE: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/XPRR Don - I used a fine-tooth hack saw and lubed the blade with T-9 (Boelube in a spray can) to rough out the lead. Then used a rat-tail rasp to rough out the inside radius, finish with a chainsaw file. Vixen file for the flat / outside radius areas. Also used T-9 on the files and cleaned the files often with the file card / wire brush. Neal RV-7 N8ZG Fuselage www.appaero.com > posted by: "Don Hall" Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section of lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? < ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:50 AM PST US From: "David E. Nelson" Subject: RV7-List: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM --> RV7-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" Hi All, Got started on the firewall and the fit of the recess is causing me fits. All the holes line up except the top two (#30's). I have to really bend/push/shove the cleco to get it in which isn't right. And there's no way I'm going to be able to get a rivet in there and properly seated. Is this normal do I possibly have a malformed/malpunched recess? Thanks, /\/elson RV-7A - Fuselage Austin, TX ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:56 AM PST US From: Walter Tondu Subject: Re: RV7-List: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM --> RV7-List message posted by: Walter Tondu On 06/15 8:14, David E. Nelson wrote: > Got started on the firewall and the fit of the recess is causing me fits. All > the holes line up except the top two (#30's). I have to really bend/push/shove > the cleco to get it in which isn't right. And there's no way I'm going to be > able to get a rivet in there and properly seated. > > Is this normal do I possibly have a malformed/malpunched recess? That's a fairly normal situation. Don't sweat it. You are going to proseal that puppy in place anyhow. Just get it in as best as you can. If there are small gaps, they'll be covered with the goop. -- Walter Tondu http://www.rv7-a.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:23 AM PST US From: Norman Younie Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie Use a rasp file. Don Hall wrote: >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" > > >The plans call for a section of the counterbalance to be cut out. It was >fun enough just drilling holes in lead. My bandsaw wasn't enjoying the job >too much, but I suppose it'll work if I keep at it. But I wonder if there >is an easier way... Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section of >lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:51 AM PST US From: "Brian Meyette" Subject: RE: RV7-List: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM clamav-milter version 0.80j on apophis.email.starband.net --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" Pro-seal?? Uh-oh Guess I missed that part - I just riveted mine in. Well, I guess I'll have to just apply it around the edges from the inside. brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Walter Tondu Subject: Re: RV7-List: Fitting the firewall recess 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:25 AM, Serialize by Router on MailServ59-US/AUS/H/NIC(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM, Serialize complete at 06/15/2005 08:10:26 AM --> RV7-List message posted by: Walter Tondu On 06/15 8:14, David E. Nelson wrote: > Got started on the firewall and the fit of the recess is causing me fits. All > the holes line up except the top two (#30's). I have to really bend/push/shove > the cleco to get it in which isn't right. And there's no way I'm going to be > able to get a rivet in there and properly seated. > > Is this normal do I possibly have a malformed/malpunched recess? That's a fairly normal situation. Don't sweat it. You are going to proseal that puppy in place anyhow. Just get it in as best as you can. If there are small gaps, they'll be covered with the goop. -- Walter Tondu http://www.rv7-a.com -- -- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:19 PM PST US From: "William Near" Subject: Re: RV7-List: Dimple Problem --> RV7-List message posted by: "William Near" While dimpling one of the skins on my QB wings, my son who has manning the hammer while I manipulated the skin hit the dimpler before I was ready and left a malpositioned dimple and hole. I did what everybody else has done, tried to flatten it as best I could and then moved on. In twenty years, I will look at that hole and praise God I was able to build an airplane with my son. Bill Near-Wiring ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Cook" Subject: Re: RV7-List: Dimple Problem > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Doug Cook" > > Norm, I did the same thing on my HS. I smacked the booboo flat and > re-dimpled. After everything was done, you can hardly tell. > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:51 PM PST US From: "Daniel Storer" Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: "Daniel Storer" I second that warning! I also took off what the print said and it was too light, and had to add some back. I wonder if the paint job will effect the final balance of the elevator to the point of having to remove material? Any words of wisdom from those completed RV's? I used my band saw with a wood hook blade (6 teeth per inch) and several relief cuts perpendicular to the direction of cut, and hand filed it smooth. It worked like a champ just take your time. Dan Storer 7A Oklahoma City Wings -------Original Message------- From: Don Patterson Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Patterson" I used a band saw but used some lube on the blade. Watch how much you remove... I followed the print and found later that I needed to add more lead. Don Patterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > > You can use a chisel on lead. Sometimes even a razor blade. > > )_( Dan > RV-7 N714D > http://www.rvproject.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Hall" > To: > Subject: RV7-List: elevator counterbalance > > > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" > > > > > > The plans call for a section of the counterbalance to be cut out. It was > > fun enough just drilling holes in lead. My bandsaw wasn't enjoying the > job > > too much, but I suppose it'll work if I keep at it. But I wonder if there > > is an easier way... Any tips on the best tools for cutting out a section > of > > lead and then shaping a radius into a corner? > > > > > >