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Tue 07/26/05


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 09:13 AM - Landing gear or not? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
     2. 10:06 AM - Re: Landing gear or not? (Dan Checkoway)
     3. 11:25 AM - Re: Landing gear or not? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
     4. 03:21 PM - Panel wiring (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
     5. 05:03 PM - Re: Landing gear or not? (Mark Taylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:13:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Landing gear or not?
    From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Morning all, Engine should be with me in the next week or so. The airframe is ready but I was wondering whether to put the fuse on the landing gear or not? I have a tractor with a front loader so lifting the airframe plus engine(with a nylon strap under the fuse or around engine mount) up onto its gear later would be no problem. I have not installed any instruments/wiring so was thinking having to not have to climb up into the plane with it on its gear might be an ergonomic advantage. Anyone have any thoughts on this approach?? Thanks RV7a...fuse complete..almost..:)


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    Time: 10:06:55 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear or not?
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> My opinion is that you should finish as much of your wiring as humanly possible before installing the engine. I had a much easier time wiring with my engine NOT installed, and with the fuse on a short sawhorse, since I could stand right in front of the firewall and reach back in. Basically, here's my advice fwiw... Finish the fuselage interior. Paint it if you want. Install the sub-panel and associated front deck structure. Install your panel, instruments, avionics. Wire everything up. Install as many firewall doodads as you can before the engine goes on (battery box, contactors, transducer manifold, brake fluid reservoir, nutplates for this and that, bulkhead fittings for fuel & stuff, etc. Install the engine mount. Put it on gear. Hang the engine. Just my 2 cents, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Subject: RV7-List: Landing gear or not? > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > <frank.hinde@hp.com> > > Morning all, > > Engine should be with me in the next week or so. The airframe is ready > but I was wondering whether to put the fuse on the landing gear or not? > > I have a tractor with a front loader so lifting the airframe plus > engine(with a nylon strap under the fuse or around engine mount) up onto > its gear later would be no problem. > > I have not installed any instruments/wiring so was thinking having to > not have to climb up into the plane with it on its gear might be an > ergonomic advantage. > > Anyone have any thoughts on this approach?? > > Thanks > > RV7a...fuse complete..almost..:) > > >


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    Time: 11:25:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Landing gear or not?
    From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Thanks Dan, Certainly hard to argue with your success but unfortunatly the engine is on its way and I can't quite afford the instruments yet. Van's said to do the engine first and the wiring after. Oh well..Another couple of months and I'll be ready to order instruments so it looks like I'm stuck with hanging the engine before wiring. I have the firewall just about ready but as the invert kit is coming with the engine I wanted to have everything in hand before I bolt on the battery box and contactors. Sounds like having the thing down low is an advantage though so I can easily lift it off its landing gear and set it back down on a low sawhorse with the engine in place (might have to drop off the exhaust as well I guess). Its an adventure right?...:) Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway Subject: Re: RV7-List: Landing gear or not? --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> My opinion is that you should finish as much of your wiring as humanly possible before installing the engine. I had a much easier time wiring with my engine NOT installed, and with the fuse on a short sawhorse, since I could stand right in front of the firewall and reach back in. Basically, here's my advice fwiw... Finish the fuselage interior. Paint it if you want. Install the sub-panel and associated front deck structure. Install your panel, instruments, avionics. Wire everything up. Install as many firewall doodads as you can before the engine goes on (battery box, contactors, transducer manifold, brake fluid reservoir, nutplates for this and that, bulkhead fittings for fuel & stuff, etc. Install the engine mount. Put it on gear. Hang the engine. Just my 2 cents, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Subject: RV7-List: Landing gear or not? > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > <frank.hinde@hp.com> > > Morning all, > > Engine should be with me in the next week or so. The airframe is ready > but I was wondering whether to put the fuse on the landing gear or not? > > I have a tractor with a front loader so lifting the airframe plus > engine(with a nylon strap under the fuse or around engine mount) up onto > its gear later would be no problem. > > I have not installed any instruments/wiring so was thinking having to > not have to climb up into the plane with it on its gear might be an > ergonomic advantage. > > Anyone have any thoughts on this approach?? > > Thanks > > RV7a...fuse complete..almost..:) > > >


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    Time: 03:21:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Panel wiring
    From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Well, well. Just talked to John Stark and he will sell me the trays for all my panel toys now and build the wiring harness. He will then credit the full cost of the trays towards my avionics when I purchase them. This is very very cool because it means I can do all the wiring and completely defray the cost of the avionics. As I have to save for everything before I buy it (It's a function of being an English tightwad) this allows me to install wiring before engine as Dan suggested below. Pretty neat huh? My opinion is that you should finish as much of your wiring as humanly possible before installing the engine. I had a much easier time wiring with my engine NOT installed, and with the fuse on a short sawhorse, since I could stand right in front of the firewall and reach back in. Basically, here's my advice fwiw... Finish the fuselage interior. Paint it if you want. Install the sub-panel and associated front deck structure. Install your panel, instruments, avionics. Wire everything up. Install as many firewall doodads as you can before the engine goes on (battery box, contactors, transducer manifold, brake fluid reservoir, nutplates for this and that, bulkhead fittings for fuel & stuff, etc. Install the engine mount. Put it on gear. Hang the engine. Just my 2 cents, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 05:03:45 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing gear or not?
    --> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com> Yup, that's the best way, and the way I'm attacking mine. Practically all my wiring is done now bar a few odds and ends, so I put the plane up on it's gear the other week. It's funny, because when it's down on a sawhorse, it makes progress seem so slow. When it goes up on the wheels though, it's like WOW! I'm almost done! Well, seems like it anyway, but I know it's nowhere even close still! Mark www.4sierratango.com >From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> >Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com >To: <rv7-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: RV7-List: Landing gear or not? >Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:06:04 -0700 > >--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > >My opinion is that you should finish as much of your wiring as humanly >possible before installing the engine. I had a much easier time wiring >with >my engine NOT installed, and with the fuse on a short sawhorse, since I >could stand right in front of the firewall and reach back in. > >Basically, here's my advice fwiw... > >Finish the fuselage interior. Paint it if you want. Install the sub-panel >and associated front deck structure. Install your panel, instruments, >avionics. Wire everything up. Install as many firewall doodads as you can >before the engine goes on (battery box, contactors, transducer manifold, >brake fluid reservoir, nutplates for this and that, bulkhead fittings for >fuel & stuff, etc. Install the engine mount. Put it on gear. Hang the >engine. > >Just my 2 cents, >)_( Dan >RV-7 N714D >http://www.rvproject.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> >To: <rv7-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV7-List: Landing gear or not? > > > > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > > <frank.hinde@hp.com> > > > > Morning all, > > > > Engine should be with me in the next week or so. The airframe is ready > > but I was wondering whether to put the fuse on the landing gear or not? > > > > I have a tractor with a front loader so lifting the airframe plus > > engine(with a nylon strap under the fuse or around engine mount) up onto > > its gear later would be no problem. > > > > I have not installed any instruments/wiring so was thinking having to > > not have to climb up into the plane with it on its gear might be an > > ergonomic advantage. > > > > Anyone have any thoughts on this approach?? > > > > Thanks > > > > RV7a...fuse complete..almost..:) > > > > > > > >




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