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1. 04:36 AM - Re: Engine decision time ... (Vern W)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: Engine decision time ... (Mark Taylor)
3. 03:54 PM - Re: Engine decision time ... (Imken)
4. 05:15 PM - Filing rivets (Mslev100@aol.com)
5. 06:06 PM - Re: Filing rivets (LarryRobertHelming)
6. 07:47 PM - Interior thoughts.. (Brooks Wolfe)
7. 09:12 PM - Re: Interior thoughts.. (B Tomm)
8. 09:26 PM - Re: Interior thoughts.. (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine decision time ... |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Vern W" <vernw@pdq.net>
I recall a couple of messages by Mahlon Russel himself (of Mattituck)
actually recommend putting the 360 in the RV9. And IIRC, the reasoning was
that it wasn't any heavier than the 320, it would be derated (but just a
little?), and what you got was more power for climb performance and still
good fuel economy at cruise.
Still, before I did use a 360 in your RV9, I would recommend calling
someone personally to discuss all the issues. If you're thinking of going
with a Mattituck (my choice as well), call Mahlon in person. He's been known
to be very accessable and willing to spend time with potential customers
with these kind of questions.
Vern
RV7-A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
Subject: RE: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
>
> You can use the 360, derated in the 9, then at altitude you get a little
> more power. I think that it's derated by rpm restriction, but cant' be
sure.
> I remember reading an artical somewhere, but I can't remember where it
was.
> Anybody else remember that one?
>
> I got mine from Mattituck. Their TMX is great value as far as Lycosaurs
go,
> and they can build it out of Superior parts if you should so desire. The
TMX
> is normally ECI based. I asked for the Ryton sump on mine so I could
> eliminate the intake from the cowling. This basically means that Mattituck
> have to order a complete XP-360 to get the sump as Superior do not sell
the
> sump separately.
>
> On the flip side, Cameron a couple of hangars down has a 320 in his 9A and
> is very pleased with the way it performs. Van's are pretty honest in
> department too, which is nice as we all get a realistic guide as to how
our
> aircraft will perform.
>
> Check out the Firewall Forward page on my website to see more info on the
> engine.
>
> Mark
> www.4sierratango.com
>
>
> >From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> >Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> >To: rv9-list@matronics.com, rv7-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
> >Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:08:44 -0700 0.25 HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP
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> >
> >--> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> >
> >
> >Fellow builders,
> >
> >Its that daunting and exciting time to decide what engine to
> >put in my RV9 (taildragger). I've decided to rule out the auto
> >conversions and go Lycosaur (IO-320 or 360) but I could use a
> >like a little help deciding which. The 9 fuselage is pretty
> >much identical to the 7, so it will take a 360. I know Van's
> >recommends the 320 as the max for the 9 presumably to limit the
> >possibility of exceeding Vne for the airframe etc etc.
> >
> >I'm wondering if folks already flying their 9s are getting max
> >performance as advertised with the 320 and thus there's no
> >purpose to putting in the 360. My mission is fastest possible
> >cruise for frequent trips up and down the California coast from
> >my home base in San Francisco to destinations like LA, San
> >Diego, Tahoe, Portland, Seattle with the occassional coast to
> >coast jaunt. Resale value is probably less of a concern to me
> >- I can't ever see myself selling this puppy.
> >
> >Any experiences, thoughts, rants, prejudices and musings will
> >be most welcome :)
> >
> >__g__
> >
> >==========================================================
> >Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> > Tel: 415 203 9177
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine decision time ... |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
I'll second that with Mahlon Russell. He's a great person to deal with. The
other cool thing about Mattituck is they don't pressure you into buying.
Their way is to inform you as best they can, answer your questions and let
theie engines sell themselves. It works. I know Mahlon was bombarded with
questions before I placed the order! If you have your heart set on a
Superior engine, that's no problem, because they can do that too since
they're one of superior's builders.
Mark.
www.4sierratango.com
>From: "Vern W" <vernw@pdq.net>
>Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 06:43:06 -0500
>
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Vern W" <vernw@pdq.net>
>
> I recall a couple of messages by Mahlon Russel himself (of Mattituck)
>actually recommend putting the 360 in the RV9. And IIRC, the reasoning was
>that it wasn't any heavier than the 320, it would be derated (but just a
>little?), and what you got was more power for climb performance and still
>good fuel economy at cruise.
> Still, before I did use a 360 in your RV9, I would recommend calling
>someone personally to discuss all the issues. If you're thinking of going
>with a Mattituck (my choice as well), call Mahlon in person. He's been
>known
>to be very accessable and willing to spend time with potential customers
>with these kind of questions.
>
>Vern
>RV7-A
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
>To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
> >
> > You can use the 360, derated in the 9, then at altitude you get a little
> > more power. I think that it's derated by rpm restriction, but cant' be
>sure.
> > I remember reading an artical somewhere, but I can't remember where it
>was.
> > Anybody else remember that one?
> >
> > I got mine from Mattituck. Their TMX is great value as far as Lycosaurs
>go,
> > and they can build it out of Superior parts if you should so desire. The
>TMX
> > is normally ECI based. I asked for the Ryton sump on mine so I could
> > eliminate the intake from the cowling. This basically means that
>Mattituck
> > have to order a complete XP-360 to get the sump as Superior do not sell
>the
> > sump separately.
> >
> > On the flip side, Cameron a couple of hangars down has a 320 in his 9A
>and
> > is very pleased with the way it performs. Van's are pretty honest in
> > department too, which is nice as we all get a realistic guide as to how
>our
> > aircraft will perform.
> >
> > Check out the Firewall Forward page on my website to see more info on
>the
> > engine.
> >
> > Mark
> > www.4sierratango.com
> >
> >
> > >From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> > >Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> > >To: rv9-list@matronics.com, rv7-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
> > >Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:08:44 -0700 0.25 HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP
> > >Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (DHCP) 0.74
>HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC
> > > Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (HCC) 1.40
> > >HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr
>1)
> > >
> > >--> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >Fellow builders,
> > >
> > >Its that daunting and exciting time to decide what engine to
> > >put in my RV9 (taildragger). I've decided to rule out the auto
> > >conversions and go Lycosaur (IO-320 or 360) but I could use a
> > >like a little help deciding which. The 9 fuselage is pretty
> > >much identical to the 7, so it will take a 360. I know Van's
> > >recommends the 320 as the max for the 9 presumably to limit the
> > >possibility of exceeding Vne for the airframe etc etc.
> > >
> > >I'm wondering if folks already flying their 9s are getting max
> > >performance as advertised with the 320 and thus there's no
> > >purpose to putting in the 360. My mission is fastest possible
> > >cruise for frequent trips up and down the California coast from
> > >my home base in San Francisco to destinations like LA, San
> > >Diego, Tahoe, Portland, Seattle with the occassional coast to
> > >coast jaunt. Resale value is probably less of a concern to me
> > >- I can't ever see myself selling this puppy.
> > >
> > >Any experiences, thoughts, rants, prejudices and musings will
> > >be most welcome :)
> > >
> > >__g__
> > >
> > >==========================================================
> > >Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> > > Tel: 415 203 9177
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Engine decision time ... |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
My friend Ted put an O-360 from Aero Sport Power into his 9A-has over 100
hours on it and is very happy with it. With a half tank of gas, the 9A
climbs out at 2100 fpm over 100 MPH. I have an O-360 in my 7A with 10 to 1
pistons, Light Speed ignition, ceramic-coated exhausts (in and out) and I
can barely keep up the 9A. The 9A with an O-360 is awesome.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Taylor
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
I'll second that with Mahlon Russell. He's a great person to deal with. The
other cool thing about Mattituck is they don't pressure you into buying.
Their way is to inform you as best they can, answer your questions and let
theie engines sell themselves. It works. I know Mahlon was bombarded with
questions before I placed the order! If you have your heart set on a
Superior engine, that's no problem, because they can do that too since
they're one of superior's builders.
Mark.
www.4sierratango.com
>From: "Vern W" <vernw@pdq.net>
>Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 06:43:06 -0500
>
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Vern W" <vernw@pdq.net>
>
> I recall a couple of messages by Mahlon Russel himself (of Mattituck)
>actually recommend putting the 360 in the RV9. And IIRC, the reasoning was
>that it wasn't any heavier than the 320, it would be derated (but just a
>little?), and what you got was more power for climb performance and still
>good fuel economy at cruise.
> Still, before I did use a 360 in your RV9, I would recommend calling
>someone personally to discuss all the issues. If you're thinking of going
>with a Mattituck (my choice as well), call Mahlon in person. He's been
>known
>to be very accessable and willing to spend time with potential customers
>with these kind of questions.
>
>Vern
>RV7-A
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
>To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
> >
> > You can use the 360, derated in the 9, then at altitude you get a little
> > more power. I think that it's derated by rpm restriction, but cant' be
>sure.
> > I remember reading an artical somewhere, but I can't remember where it
>was.
> > Anybody else remember that one?
> >
> > I got mine from Mattituck. Their TMX is great value as far as Lycosaurs
>go,
> > and they can build it out of Superior parts if you should so desire. The
>TMX
> > is normally ECI based. I asked for the Ryton sump on mine so I could
> > eliminate the intake from the cowling. This basically means that
>Mattituck
> > have to order a complete XP-360 to get the sump as Superior do not sell
>the
> > sump separately.
> >
> > On the flip side, Cameron a couple of hangars down has a 320 in his 9A
>and
> > is very pleased with the way it performs. Van's are pretty honest in
> > department too, which is nice as we all get a realistic guide as to how
>our
> > aircraft will perform.
> >
> > Check out the Firewall Forward page on my website to see more info on
>the
> > engine.
> >
> > Mark
> > www.4sierratango.com
> >
> >
> > >From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> > >Reply-To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> > >To: rv9-list@matronics.com, rv7-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RV7-List: Engine decision time ...
> > >Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:08:44 -0700 0.25 HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP
> > >Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (DHCP) 0.74
>HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC
> > > Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (HCC) 1.40
> > >HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr
>1)
> > >
> > >--> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >Fellow builders,
> > >
> > >Its that daunting and exciting time to decide what engine to
> > >put in my RV9 (taildragger). I've decided to rule out the auto
> > >conversions and go Lycosaur (IO-320 or 360) but I could use a
> > >like a little help deciding which. The 9 fuselage is pretty
> > >much identical to the 7, so it will take a 360. I know Van's
> > >recommends the 320 as the max for the 9 presumably to limit the
> > >possibility of exceeding Vne for the airframe etc etc.
> > >
> > >I'm wondering if folks already flying their 9s are getting max
> > >performance as advertised with the 320 and thus there's no
> > >purpose to putting in the 360. My mission is fastest possible
> > >cruise for frequent trips up and down the California coast from
> > >my home base in San Francisco to destinations like LA, San
> > >Diego, Tahoe, Portland, Seattle with the occassional coast to
> > >coast jaunt. Resale value is probably less of a concern to me
> > >- I can't ever see myself selling this puppy.
> > >
> > >Any experiences, thoughts, rants, prejudices and musings will
> > >be most welcome :)
> > >
> > >__g__
> > >
> > >==========================================================
> > >Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> > > Tel: 415 203 9177
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Mslev100@aol.com
I have a few areas I want to fill countersubk rivet heads - what are people
using to fill these areas. I will use PPG primer and PPG polyurethane for
linished paint.
Appeciate any suggestions.
Mary Beth
RV7A just turned fuselage canoe over.
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| Subject: | Re: Filing rivets |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
SuperFil will be one product that will work with filling rivet depressions
and with your paints and later on with fiber glass. It is epoxy based.
Great stuff, not too expensive and easy to work with but requires 24 hours
to dry and setup.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies
----- Original Message -----
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Mslev100@aol.com
>
> I have a few areas I want to fill countersubk rivet heads - what are
> people
> using to fill these areas. I will use PPG primer and PPG polyurethane for
> linished paint.
> Appeciate any suggestions.
>
> Mary Beth
> RV7A just turned fuselage canoe over.
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brooks Wolfe" <slipstream13@earthlink.net>
I'm looking for a good interior set for my -7. Outside of Oregon Aero seats
I haven't really shopped around yet for interior kits. The fuselage is
about ready to close up, so it's time to make decisions on where to paint
and where to upholster, etc. I don't want to weigh my plane down with a
bunch of overstuffed padding, but Van's demonstrators are definitely more
Spartan than what I'm imagining.. Does anyone have some good references
for interior kit suppliers?
Brooks
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| Subject: | Interior thoughts.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "B Tomm" <fvalarm@rapidnet.net>
I've heard penty of good stuff about
http://www.classicaerodesigns.com/default.asp and plan to use them myself.
Bevan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brooks Wolfe
Subject: RV7-List: Interior thoughts..
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brooks Wolfe"
--> <slipstream13@earthlink.net>
I'm looking for a good interior set for my -7. Outside of Oregon Aero seats
I haven't really shopped around yet for interior kits. The fuselage is
about ready to close up, so it's time to make decisions on where to paint
and where to upholster, etc. I don't want to weigh my plane down with a
bunch of overstuffed padding, but Van's demonstrators are definitely more
Spartan than what I'm imagining.. Does anyone have some good references
for interior kit suppliers?
Brooks
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| Subject: | Re: Interior thoughts.. |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
http://www.classicaerodesigns.com
Looks great, very comfortable on some very long trips, and has stood up
remarkably to people getting in and out of the plane for hundreds of hours.
Still looks practically new, and I've never cleaned 'em.
Good stuff, highly recommended.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (583 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brooks Wolfe" <slipstream13@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Interior thoughts..
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Brooks Wolfe"
> <slipstream13@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm looking for a good interior set for my -7. Outside of Oregon Aero
> seats
> I haven't really shopped around yet for interior kits. The fuselage is
> about ready to close up, so it's time to make decisions on where to paint
> and where to upholster, etc. I don't want to weigh my plane down with a
> bunch of overstuffed padding, but Van's demonstrators are definitely more
> Spartan than what I'm imagining.. Does anyone have some good references
> for interior kit suppliers?
>
> Brooks
>
>
>
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