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1. 06:39 AM - Re: Flap pushrod cutout (dsvs@comcast.net)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: Flap pushrod cutout (Norman Younie)
3. 06:58 AM - Flap pushrod cutout (Merems)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: Flap pushrod cutout (Norman Younie)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Flap pushrod cutout (Phil Birkelbach)
6. 08:25 AM - Re: New engine (Dan Checkoway)
7. 10:26 AM - Re: New engine (Merems)
8. 10:39 AM - Re: Flap pushrod cutout (bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net)
9. 11:54 AM - Re: New engine (TylerB)
10. 04:07 PM - Re: New engine (Imken)
11. 06:45 PM - Re: New engine (Bill Schlatterer)
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net
Paul,
There is no reference to look at. You have to "eye ball" it. I waited until I
was ready to mount the wings. Having the wings on will give you a better idea
as to where things need to be. Don
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>
> Fellow builders,
>
> I am preparing my bottom center fuselage skin for riveting and I am trying to
> determine the cutout size for the flap pushrod. I have had the side skins on
> and I know there is a slot cut in the side skin for the flap pushrod. There
is
> a 3/32 hole in bottom skin that lines up with this slot. I believe this slot
and
> hole are to joined/enlarged together to form the slot for the pushrod, however
I
> can't seem to find the proper reference in the drawings or instructions.
>
> If you can enlighten me I would appreciate it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie <rv6capt@pacificcoast.net>
Don't cut out the slot for the flap push rod until after you have
installed the wings and flaps. This is the time to determine where the
slot will go. The small hole is a guide where the steps if used will go.
Cheers
Norman
Merems wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>
>Fellow builders,
>
>I am preparing my bottom center fuselage skin for riveting and I am trying to
determine the cutout size for the flap pushrod. I have had the side skins on
and I know there is a slot cut in the side skin for the flap pushrod. There is
a 3/32 hole in bottom skin that lines up with this slot. I believe this slot
and hole are to joined/enlarged together to form the slot for the pushrod, however
I can't seem to find the proper reference in the drawings or instructions.
>
>If you can enlighten me I would appreciate it.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Gents,
Thanks for the input on the flap pushrod cutout. I had thought that because of
the advanced nature of the kit Van's would have given more information on the
cutout. I thought I was having a senior moment (not finding it in the plans or
instructions).
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie <rv6capt@pacificcoast.net>
It is there but later in the manual.
Merems wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>
>Gents,
>
>Thanks for the input on the flap pushrod cutout. I had thought that because of
the advanced nature of the kit Van's would have given more information on the
cutout. I thought I was having a senior moment (not finding it in the plans
or instructions).
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Phil Birkelbach <phil@petrasoft.net>
Don't worry about it at this point. You will want to have your wings on
and flaps mounted when you cut that hole. It's a funny bean shaped
thing if you cut the minimum amount out. It's one of those deals where
you start small and work your way out until you get full deflection of
the flaps with no interference. If you do it now you run the risk of
making the hole too big and having it show from behind the flap or
making it too small and having an interference, or a combination of both
if you don't place the cutout just right.
Godspeed,
Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas
RV-7 N727WB - Finishing Up
http://www.myrv7.com
Merems wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>
>Fellow builders,
>
>I am preparing my bottom center fuselage skin for riveting and I am trying to
determine the cutout size for the flap pushrod. I have had the side skins on
and I know there is a slot cut in the side skin for the flap pushrod. There is
a 3/32 hole in bottom skin that lines up with this slot. I believe this slot
and hole are to joined/enlarged together to form the slot for the pushrod, however
I can't seem to find the proper reference in the drawings or instructions.
>
>If you can enlighten me I would appreciate it.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Bill,
I doubt you'd go wrong with either. But you asked for perspective, so I'll
toss mine in...
I had AeroSport Power do the build-up on my IO-360. Absolutely fantastic
engine, I gotta say that first. But anyway, when I did my first engine
start, the prop didn't cycle. (Long story short, I just didn't have enough
RPM in. But...) I called and spoke to Bart, and he wanted to rule out
simple things first but was willing to send me tools and instruments in
order to monitor crankcase & oil pressures and this and that. Hard to
describe, because much of what he was talking about was way over my head.
The point is that his support has been incredible. AeroSport Power stands
behind their work and you're not "out the door" once the engine ships. They
take good care of you.
Another couple of examples...
The IO-360 with horizontal induction really needs a sniffle valve. I didn't
have a Lycoming parts manual at this point in the build (everybody should!)
and called up Bart to find out the part #. Instead of giving me the part #,
they just dropped one in the mail for me.
Same deal for the gasket & cover on the vacuum pump pad. I called and asked
what the part numbers were, and they just dropped 'em in the mail instead.
Oh...and how about this...
My engine came with hoses, fittings, restrictor fittings, etc. Don't know
if all AeroSport engines come like this, but does Superior build the engine
"complete" like this? Maybe so, but something to consider.
I know other builders whose engines came from other shops (which shall
remain nameless), and upon checking timing, idle mixture, etc. they were all
off. When I checked these things on my engine, they were dead on, zero
tolerance (in my estimation).
This engine has over 600 hours on it now and it just runs like a friggin'
champ. I'm extremely confident in AeroSport Power's ability to build a
great engine.
I'm an extremely happy customer and highly recommend AeroSport Power if you
have the option.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "flutewitch" <flutewitch@cox.net>
Subject: RV7-List: New engine
> --> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net>
>
> I was wondering if any one has a comment on Aero Sport Power for an engine
> or Superior. I know Aero Sport uses Superior parts so why should I go to a
> second party rather than by direct from superior. I have a friend who has
an
> RV 6 with an Aero sport engine and is very happy with it and there
service.
> But the same engine is less expensive through Superior. In either case I'm
> looking at about $26,000.00 so I want to do this right the first time
>
> Thanks Bill RV 7 builder
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Bill,
I spent several hours over several days talking with the engine builders at Oshkosh.
I needed to understand my options for my RV-7A. I don't need the engine
yet, maybe next year, but since I was their I needed to do some research. I
spoke with four of the major engine builders there (Superior, Aerosport Power,
Penn Yan, Matt.) All were knowledgeable, but Bart at Aerosport power stood out.
He handled all my questions (many of them naive) well. His engine knowledge
was outstanding. I must have spoken with him for over an hour. He seemed
to be the most flexible engine builder out there.
One important question I asked each engine builder was when and how long their
warranties were. Most have a 1 year warranty but Aerosport has a 3 year. But
most importantly when does it start. Many of the engine builders said at first
startup and or within 6 months of purchasing. I know from experience that
it takes a lot of time to finish up the cowling and other systems after the engine
is installed. In fact it may take years depending on life's changes. However
Bart was the only engine builder to address this issue. He mentioned he
would prefer to see the engine started soon after purchase, but understood the
builder's issue (he is an RV builder) and offer storage/picking options to help
with this. Many of the engine builders just repeated the warranty starts
within 6 months and would address even the storage/picking options.
Aerosport power offers 4 different engine colors at no extra charge, others offer
only one color.
In summary, Aerosport power (Bart) has convinced me that they are the right engine
builder for my RV.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Checkoway
To: rv7-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: New engine
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Bill,
I doubt you'd go wrong with either. But you asked for perspective, so I'll
toss mine in...
I had AeroSport Power do the build-up on my IO-360. Absolutely fantastic
engine, I gotta say that first. But anyway, when I did my first engine
start, the prop didn't cycle. (Long story short, I just didn't have enough
RPM in. But...) I called and spoke to Bart, and he wanted to rule out
simple things first but was willing to send me tools and instruments in
order to monitor crankcase & oil pressures and this and that. Hard to
describe, because much of what he was talking about was way over my head.
The point is that his support has been incredible. AeroSport Power stands
behind their work and you're not "out the door" once the engine ships. They
take good care of you.
Another couple of examples...
The IO-360 with horizontal induction really needs a sniffle valve. I didn't
have a Lycoming parts manual at this point in the build (everybody should!)
and called up Bart to find out the part #. Instead of giving me the part #,
they just dropped one in the mail for me.
Same deal for the gasket & cover on the vacuum pump pad. I called and asked
what the part numbers were, and they just dropped 'em in the mail instead.
Oh...and how about this...
My engine came with hoses, fittings, restrictor fittings, etc. Don't know
if all AeroSport engines come like this, but does Superior build the engine
"complete" like this? Maybe so, but something to consider.
I know other builders whose engines came from other shops (which shall
remain nameless), and upon checking timing, idle mixture, etc. they were all
off. When I checked these things on my engine, they were dead on, zero
tolerance (in my estimation).
This engine has over 600 hours on it now and it just runs like a friggin'
champ. I'm extremely confident in AeroSport Power's ability to build a
great engine.
I'm an extremely happy customer and highly recommend AeroSport Power if you
have the option.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "flutewitch" <flutewitch@cox.net>
To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV7-List: New engine
> --> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net>
>
> I was wondering if any one has a comment on Aero Sport Power for an engine
> or Superior. I know Aero Sport uses Superior parts so why should I go to a
> second party rather than by direct from superior. I have a friend who has
an
> RV 6 with an Aero sport engine and is very happy with it and there
service.
> But the same engine is less expensive through Superior. In either case I'm
> looking at about $26,000.00 so I want to do this right the first time
>
> Thanks Bill RV 7 builder
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap pushrod cutout |
--> RV7-List message posted by: bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net
> Don't cut out the slot for the flap push rod until after you have
> installed the wings and flaps. This is the time to determine where the
> slot will go. The small hole is a guide where the steps if used will go.
No, that's a different hole. There is an oblong hole in the side skin where the
longeron is. There's a pilot hole for the steps.
But, "willco" on the "don't cut it now" advice.
And thanks
Bob
St. Paul
Don't cut out the slot for the flap push rod until after you have
installed the wings and flaps. This is the time to determine where the
slot will go. The small hole is a guide where the steps if used will go.
No, that's a different hole. There is an oblong hole in the side skin where the
longeron is. There's a pilot hole for the steps.
But, "willco" on the "don't cut it now" advice.
And thanks
Bob
St. Paul
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--> RV7-List message posted by: TylerB <tylerii@InfoAve.Net>
Depends on where you are and whether you will have electronic ignition.
AeroSport are great people to work with and build great engines but the
freight to the East Coat is outta sight from Kamloops Canada.....As to
Superior...great engines but thay cannot run up a built enginje on there
test stand if it does not have mags.....if the engine has electronic
ignition then they send the engine out to eithe Eagle or PennYan to do
the test stand runs...obviously there is freight costs involved
Tyler B RV7A N537TM
flutewitch wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net>
>
>I was wondering if any one has a comment on Aero Sport Power for an engine
>or Superior. I know Aero Sport uses Superior parts so why should I go to a
>second party rather than by direct from superior. I have a friend who has an
>RV 6 with an Aero sport engine and is very happy with it and there service.
>But the same engine is less expensive through Superior. In either case I'm
>looking at about $26,000.00 so I want to do this right the first time
>
>Thanks Bill RV 7 builder
>
>
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Imken" <skikrazi@CenturyTel.net>
......agree with Norman. At the Lockhart, Texas airport, we have Aero Sport
engines in an RV-7, a 7A, a 9A, and an 8...plus an IO-540 about to be hung
on a 10. My 7A has an O-360 with 10 to 1 pistons and Light Speed ignition
on one side. I told Bart I wanted my engine built with ECI parts rather
than Superior. A recent article in Flying Mag really complemented ECI on
their new method of coating cylinders to eliminate corrosion. Bart and Sue
are super to work with.
Chuck Imken
N735RV
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Norman Younie
Subject: Re: RV7-List: New engine
--> RV7-List message posted by: Norman Younie <rv6capt@pacificcoast.net>
You will be very hard pressed to find a better company to deal with. I
have had three engines from them and a fourth ordered. Bart knows his
stuff and won't lead you astray. Ask Jon Johanson about his engines he
has got from Bart.
Cheers
Norman
flutewitch wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net>
>
>I was wondering if any one has a comment on Aero Sport Power for an engine
>or Superior. I know Aero Sport uses Superior parts so why should I go to a
>second party rather than by direct from superior. I have a friend who has
an
>RV 6 with an Aero sport engine and is very happy with it and there service.
>But the same engine is less expensive through Superior. In either case I'm
>looking at about $26,000.00 so I want to do this right the first time
>
>Thanks Bill RV 7 builder
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Don't think that's true today. Bart has modified his test stand and can run
at least some EI systems. Just got mine with P-Mag and Bart said it ran
nicely. He did not have that capability last winter and I had him hold the
engine until he got his test stand modified. If it concerns you, check with
Bart to be sure.
Just received but have not run a XP360 assembled by Bart so can't say much
other than it really looks great and ran nicely at Barts place.
Thanks Bill S
7a fuse panel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of TylerB
Subject: Re: RV7-List: New engine
--> RV7-List message posted by: TylerB <tylerii@InfoAve.Net>
Depends on where you are and whether you will have electronic ignition.
AeroSport are great people to work with and build great engines but the
freight to the East Coat is outta sight from Kamloops Canada.....As to
Superior...great engines but thay cannot run up a built enginje on there
test stand if it does not have mags.....if the engine has electronic
ignition then they send the engine out to eithe Eagle or PennYan to do
the test stand runs...obviously there is freight costs involved
Tyler B RV7A N537TM
flutewitch wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: flutewitch <flutewitch@cox.net>
>
>I was wondering if any one has a comment on Aero Sport Power for an engine
>or Superior. I know Aero Sport uses Superior parts so why should I go to a
>second party rather than by direct from superior. I have a friend who has
an
>RV 6 with an Aero sport engine and is very happy with it and there service.
>But the same engine is less expensive through Superior. In either case I'm
>looking at about $26,000.00 so I want to do this right the first time
>
>Thanks Bill RV 7 builder
>
>
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