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1. 02:20 PM - compressors (Connie Giammarco)
2. 02:45 PM - Re: compressors (Scott R. Shook)
3. 02:49 PM - Re: compressors (Dan Checkoway)
4. 02:49 PM - Re: compressors (Gerry Filby)
5. 02:50 PM - Re: compressors (Brian Meyette)
6. 03:00 PM - Re: compressors ()
7. 05:46 PM - Re: compressors (Don Hall)
8. 05:58 PM - Re: compressors (Rob Prior (rv7))
9. 08:50 PM - wing wiring conduit (Don Hall)
10. 10:04 PM - Re: wing wiring conduit (Dan Checkoway)
11. 11:04 PM - to Don Hall - wing tank nutplates (owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com)
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool buying
stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp compressor. Is this
enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders with this etc.
I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
dennis
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Scott R. Shook" <sshook@cox.net>
Here is what I bought. I bought a Home Depot compressor that is 32 Gal in
capacity oil-less (if you can stand the noise). I don't mind it too much
because the garage is insulated. It still will come on quite a bit when I
am drilling skins.
Good thing is that it run's on 110 so I did not need to run a 220v outlet
for it.
In looking at homedepot.com it looks like that model is replaced by this one
Internet/Catalog 168916
Just my .02
Scott
Closing out last elevator
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From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Connie Giammarco
Subject: RV7-List: compressors
--> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool buying
stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp compressor. Is this
enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders with this etc.
I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
dennis
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Dennis,
While it'll probably work for riveting (rivet gun or pneumatic squeezer) and
some drilling, it'll probably be hurtin' a bit when you do any real drilling
of non match-drilled stuff or any die grinder stuff at all. Or any
painting/priming if you happen to do any of that.
Not trying to tell you to spend more money, but a 30-gal or 60-gal would be
a better investment imho.
Also keep in mind that oiled compressors tend to be considerably quieter
than oil-free versions (like the Sears POS that I have).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie Giammarco" <choices46@alltel.net>
Subject: RV7-List: compressors
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
>
> I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool buying
> stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp compressor. Is
> this
> enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders with this
> etc.
> I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
> dennis
>
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
I have a 15 gallon 5 hp compressor and it just about runs the
air drill and paint sprayer, it definitely lacks lustre when it
comes to a die grinder. The rivet squeezer and gun run OK.
I would say your 8 gallon one would be less than optimal at
best - if you can return it, that might be best.
g
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> --> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
>
> I am just starting out with the building process and am in the
> tool buying
> stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp
> compressor. Is this
> enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders
> with this etc.
> I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
> dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic@starband.net>
Most anything will get you by. The air drills, rivet guns, and squeezers
don't take that much air. OTOH, that sounds like an odd combination of high
HP and low storage. Or maybe you meant 80 gallon? That'd be more like it.
If it's really 8 gallons, it just means the motor will run a lot as the air
in the tank quickly runs out. What cfm rating is the compressor? Again,
people sometimes get all wrapped up in the air compressor choice, but most
any air compressor will get your plane built. If you want it for more than
that, then that's a different story. Beware the oil-free compressors.
They will work OK, but they are extremely LOUD and quite obnoxious. But,
they will work fine for building your plane.
brian
http://brian76.mystarband.net/RV-7Ahome.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Connie Giammarco
Subject: RV7-List: compressors
--> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool buying
stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp compressor. Is this
enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders with this etc.
I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
dennis
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--> RV7-List message posted by: <wlull@cox.net>
Pretty small for the likes of a die grinder. They use air like there is no tomorrow.
I had a 20 gallon five horse 110 volt and would have to let it catch up...
alot. Worked ok for drilling and riveting etc. Finally talked the other
nine pilots in the hanger complex into plumbing the place with a 7 horse 220
volt 60 gallon compressor. Best move I have made so far (at least for me). Plus
I put it in a room by itself so I'm not going deaf anymore!!
>
> From: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
> Date: 2005/08/31 Wed PM 05:19:41 EDT
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: compressors
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco <choices46@alltel.net>
>
> I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool buying
> stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp compressor. Is this
> enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use die grinders with this etc.
> I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
> dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&p
id=00919541000
I heart my compressor. Oiled. Quiet. (Quiet for a compressor anyway.) No
need to build fancy shmancy sound isolation chambers. These days most of
the stores push the oil-less variety in the sub-35 gallon range, but Sears
let me run some tools on several compressors right there in the store. The
difference in sound and performance for the oiled versus oil-less made the
decision easy. The shrieking sound of the oil-less variety would drive me
mad. Mine is 25 gallons, and has so far been more than adequate for die
grinding, priming, etc.
Coincidentally, I have a 10-gallon oiled/piston compressor that I think was
used to make the ark. They last forever. I don't think you can buy an oiled
compressor in that size range anymore.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV7-List: compressors
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Dennis,
While it'll probably work for riveting (rivet gun or pneumatic squeezer) and
some drilling, it'll probably be hurtin' a bit when you do any real drilling
of non match-drilled stuff or any die grinder stuff at all. Or any
painting/priming if you happen to do any of that.
Not trying to tell you to spend more money, but a 30-gal or 60-gal would be
a better investment imho.
Also keep in mind that oiled compressors tend to be considerably quieter
than oil-free versions (like the Sears POS that I have).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie Giammarco" <choices46@alltel.net>
Subject: RV7-List: compressors
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco
> --> <choices46@alltel.net>
>
> I am just starting out with the building process and am in the tool
> buying stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3 hp
> compressor. Is this enough for construction of the rv 7? Can i use
> die grinders with this etc.
> I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
> dennis
>
>
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
Had to wait until I got home to reply to this thread. I have a
Campbell-Hausfeld 20 Gallon, 5HP (claimed, probably 1.5-2.5 actual), Oiled,
twin-cylinder compressor.
I have it in a separate room from my shop, and plumbed over using a 5/8"
line. In my shop, I have a portable 10 Gallon air tank plumbed in-line on
quick-release fittings. This gives me the extra 10 gallons of capacity (so
the compressor cycles less often), and somewhat counters the effect of
having a long line from the compressor to my tools.
It works well for me.
-Rob
On 17:45:33 2005-08-31 "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net> wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
> http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical> TOOL&p
> id=00919541000
>
> I heart my compressor. Oiled. Quiet. (Quiet for a compressor anyway.)
> No need to build fancy shmancy sound isolation chambers. These days
> most of the stores push the oil-less variety in the sub-35 gallon
> range, but Sears let me run some tools on several compressors right
> there in the store. The difference in sound and performance for the
> oiled versus oil-less made the decision easy. The shrieking sound of
> the oil-less variety would drive me mad. Mine is 25 gallons, and
> has so far been more than adequate for die grinding, priming, etc.
>
> Coincidentally, I have a 10-gallon oiled/piston compressor that I
> think was used to make the ark. They last forever. I don't think you
> can buy an oiled compressor in that size range anymore.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Checkoway To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: compressors
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Dennis,
>
> While it'll probably work for riveting (rivet gun or pneumatic
> squeezer) and some drilling, it'll probably be hurtin' a bit when you
> do any real drilling of non match-drilled stuff or any die grinder
> stuff at all. Or any painting/priming if you happen to do any of
> that.
>
> Not trying to tell you to spend more money, but a 30-gal or 60-gal
> would be a better investment imho.
>
> Also keep in mind that oiled compressors tend to be considerably
> quieter than oil-free versions (like the Sears POS that I have).
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Connie Giammarco" <choices46@alltel.net>
> To: <rv7-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV7-List: compressors
>
>
> > --> RV7-List message posted by: Connie Giammarco
> > --> <choices46@alltel.net>
> >
> > I am just starting out with the building process and am in the
> > tool buying stage. I recently purchased an 8 gallon capacity, 3
> > hp compressor. Is this enough for construction of the rv 7? Can
> > i use die grinders with this etc.
> > I still have time to return this one if i need more capacity.
> > dennis
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | wing wiring conduit |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
OK team,
I'm looking for a thumbs up/down on my wiring conduit decision.
Here's a picture of the spot I thought would be safe for wiring. This link
takes you straight to the first photo in the gallery. There's another photo
after this one slightly closer up.
http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=spars&id=DSC04746
I plan to use thin-walled 3/4" PVC. The outside diameter is 1-1/16". I
didn't have a unibit exactly that size, so I used a 1" hole drilling bit. It
tends to drill holes just slightly larger than 1", which worked out for me.
The hole ended up fitting extremely snug so that you have to work the pvc
in.
Is hole location OK?
I was recommended pvc over the ribbed conduit vans sells. Is thin 3/4" pvc
adequate to task?
Thanks in advance,
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 wings
http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html
******************************************
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| Subject: | Re: wing wiring conduit |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
That'll work. Ideal location imho.
PVC versus corrugated, doesn't matter much. Whatever floats your boat.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
Subject: RV7-List: wing wiring conduit
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
> OK team,
>
> I'm looking for a thumbs up/down on my wiring conduit decision.
>
> Here's a picture of the spot I thought would be safe for wiring. This
link
> takes you straight to the first photo in the gallery. There's another
photo
> after this one slightly closer up.
> http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=spars&id=DSC04746
>
> I plan to use thin-walled 3/4" PVC. The outside diameter is 1-1/16". I
> didn't have a unibit exactly that size, so I used a 1" hole drilling bit.
It
> tends to drill holes just slightly larger than 1", which worked out for
me.
> The hole ended up fitting extremely snug so that you have to work the pvc
> in.
>
> Is hole location OK?
> I was recommended pvc over the ribbed conduit vans sells. Is thin 3/4"
pvc
> adequate to task?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 wings
> http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html
> ******************************************
>
>
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| Subject: | to Don Hall - wing tank nutplates |
--> RV7-List message posted by:
Don,
I see from your photos that you countersunk the screw holes before
installing the nutplates. This could be a mistake (I've been there), depends
on how well Vans centered the holes relative to the respective nutplate
rivet holes. In my case a few screw holes were off center by as much as
1/16" which of course would make putting the screw in quite difficult. I
consequently had to rework the screw holes. To do this, I put a JB Weld
equivalent in the bad screw holes and countersunk the screw holes a second
time using the nutplate as a pilot guide. This should be OK as the JB Weld
is sandwiched in between the spar and the wing tank skin. How well the JB
Weld is holding up should be examined during long inspections, once every
two years or every 200 hours.
That's my $0.02.
Michele Delsol
RV8 Fuselage
By the way - should it be nutplate or platenut?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Hall
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:48 AM
> To: rv7-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV7-List: wing wiring conduit
>
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "Don Hall" <dhall@donka.net>
>
> OK team,
>
> I'm looking for a thumbs up/down on my wiring conduit decision.
>
> Here's a picture of the spot I thought would be safe for wiring. This
> link
> takes you straight to the first photo in the gallery. There's another
> photo
> after this one slightly closer up.
> http://donka.net/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=spars&id=DSC04746
>
> I plan to use thin-walled 3/4" PVC. The outside diameter is 1-1/16". I
> didn't have a unibit exactly that size, so I used a 1" hole drilling bit.
> It
> tends to drill holes just slightly larger than 1", which worked out for
> me.
> The hole ended up fitting extremely snug so that you have to work the pvc
> in.
>
> Is hole location OK?
> I was recommended pvc over the ribbed conduit vans sells. Is thin 3/4"
> pvc
> adequate to task?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> ******************************************
> Don Hall
> N517DG (registered)
> rv7 wings
> http:\\donka.net\rv7project.html
> ******************************************
>
>
>
>
>
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