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1. 04:56 AM - Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax (Jamie Painter)
2. 06:20 AM - State Taxes (Glaeser, Dennis A)
3. 09:54 AM - Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax (joelrhaynes@aol.com)
4. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
5. 01:31 PM - Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Jamie Painter <jamie@jpainter.org>
I am not a lawyer/financial adviser, but a lawyer friend of mine
explained it to me this way:
In Georgia, we have a 'usage' tax that is equal to the amount of sales
tax in your particular county of residency. This tax is subject to all
items that are brought into the state. The state gives you 'credit' for
the usage tax if you paid sales tax on the item, so the usage tax is
canceled out...but since you don't pay sales tax on out of state
purchases, those items are still subject to the usage tax. Right or
wrong, the states are basically bastardizing the Constitution to make
this work for them because it protects local business.
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LarryRobertHelming wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
>The reason why there is no sales tax on out of state purchases is due to the
>interstate commerce laws that prohibit any state from impeding the trade
>between people of different states. A tax would do that. I don't know what
>AZ does. In Indiana they charge sales tax on any out of state purchases
>plus a small registration fee. In light of what a plane costs in total, it
>was like paying for the finishing kit or an auto pilot. It is a slippery
>slope once you get to paying for engine, prop, and instruments. Don't think
>about it, just pay it, move on and start flying.........that's what I did.
>Now I spend money on gas!
>
>Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker 63 hours flying and still grinning
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> " Happiness: like a butterfly, when pursued,
> is always beyond our grasp, but which,
> if one sits quietly, may light upon you."
>
>Nathaniel Hawthorne
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>To: <RV-8@yahoogroups.com>; "RV10 Group" <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RV7-List: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax
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>>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
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>>Fellow builders,
>>
>>I am a few years away from completing my RV-7 but I wanted to find more
>>information about some of the aircraft registration costs others are
>>paying for the RV's. In addition if there is a one time sales tax payment
>>required to register the aircraft. I had heard that here in Arizona they
>>will asses the aircraft and charge you a sales tax if no sales taxes were
>>paid on or all parts of the kit project. Since most of us are purchasing
>>our kits and engines from out of state, there isn't any state sales tax
>>charged when purchasing.
>>
>>I don't want to start any rumors, just trying to get the facts.
>>
>>Paul
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--> RV7-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Paul,
I suggest you check your Secretary of State website for info, or talk to
some local EAA'ers.
I live in Michigan, and here we are expected to pay a "use tax", equal
to the sales tax, on any purchases made out-of-state. The state income
tax form has a place to add this item. Obviously the compliance rate is
rather low. However, since eventually the state will find out about my
plane when it is registered (the Feds dutifully notify the State), I
plan to declare and pay the tax on the big ticket items each year,
rather than one big bill at the end. I don't know how the state
assesses value on a finished homebuilt plane, but my hope is that they
will accept my voluntary declarations as complete. Of course if they
assess it higher than my declarations, I'll owe the difference.
Then, of course, is the yearly state registration fee. MI charges a
penny a pound of gross weight.
Each state is different, so your mileage WILL vary :-)
Dennis Glaeser
7A - Wings
Time: 05:27:41 PM PST US
From: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax
Fellow builders,
I am a few years away from completing my RV-7 but I wanted to find more
information about some of the aircraft registration costs others are
paying for the RV's.
In addition if there is a one time sales tax payment required to
register the aircraft. I had heard that here in Arizona they will asses
the aircraft and charge you a sales tax if no sales taxes were paid on
or all parts of the kit project. Since most of us are purchasing our
kits and engines from out of state, there isn't any state sales tax
charged when purchasing.
I don't want to start any rumors, just trying to get the facts.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax |
--> RV7-List message posted by: joelrhaynes@aol.com
My recent move from Wisconsin (tax hell) to Montana (tax heaven, no state sales
tax) is going to same me thousands of dollars when my RV is completed next spring
:-)
It's also a great place to fly.
Do not archive
Joel Haynes
Bozeman
7A 0-360
Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax |
--> RV7-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Yeah I tell ya its tough living in Oregon too...NOT...:)
Well, except that is until you find out your Mother in Law (in sales tax
hell Colorado) has registered her three cars at your address in Oregon
without your knowledge...I kid you not!
Frank..also wiring RV7 a
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Subject: RV7-List: Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax
--> RV7-List message posted by: joelrhaynes@aol.com
My recent move from Wisconsin (tax hell) to Montana (tax heaven, no
state sales tax) is going to same me thousands of dollars when my RV is
completed next spring :-) It's also a great place to fly.
Do not archive
Joel Haynes
Bozeman
7A 0-360
Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax |
--> RV7-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Don't kid yourself about the reason any government entity collects a
tax (unless you own a farm, oil company, telecommunication firm, etc).
:-$
Jamie Painter wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Jamie Painter <jamie@jpainter.org>
>
>I am not a lawyer/financial adviser, but a lawyer friend of mine
>explained it to me this way:
>
>In Georgia, we have a 'usage' tax that is equal to the amount of sales
>tax in your particular county of residency. This tax is subject to all
>items that are brought into the state. The state gives you 'credit' for
>the usage tax if you paid sales tax on the item, so the usage tax is
>canceled out...but since you don't pay sales tax on out of state
>purchases, those items are still subject to the usage tax. Right or
>wrong, the states are basically bastardizing the Constitution to make
>this work for them because it protects local business.
>
>do not archive
>
>LarryRobertHelming wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV7-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>>
>>The reason why there is no sales tax on out of state purchases is due to the
>>interstate commerce laws that prohibit any state from impeding the trade
>>between people of different states. A tax would do that. I don't know what
>>AZ does. In Indiana they charge sales tax on any out of state purchases
>>plus a small registration fee. In light of what a plane costs in total, it
>>was like paying for the finishing kit or an auto pilot. It is a slippery
>>slope once you get to paying for engine, prop, and instruments. Don't think
>>about it, just pay it, move on and start flying.........that's what I did.
>>Now I spend money on gas!
>>
>>Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker 63 hours flying and still grinning
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> " Happiness: like a butterfly, when pursued,
>> is always beyond our grasp, but which,
>> if one sits quietly, may light upon you."
>>
>>Nathaniel Hawthorne
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>>To: <RV-8@yahoogroups.com>; "RV10 Group" <RV10@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: RV7-List: Aircraft Registration fees and sales tax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV7-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
>>>
>>>Fellow builders,
>>>
>>>I am a few years away from completing my RV-7 but I wanted to find more
>>>information about some of the aircraft registration costs others are
>>>paying for the RV's. In addition if there is a one time sales tax payment
>>>required to register the aircraft. I had heard that here in Arizona they
>>>will asses the aircraft and charge you a sales tax if no sales taxes were
>>>paid on or all parts of the kit project. Since most of us are purchasing
>>>our kits and engines from out of state, there isn't any state sales tax
>>>charged when purchasing.
>>>
>>>I don't want to start any rumors, just trying to get the facts.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
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